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    Long Trail in VT this wknd, is my pad enough?

    Hello,

    Newbie hammock user here and I'll be hiking in VT this weekend with lows expected around 38-39F at night.

    I have a Grand Trunk Nano 7 Hammock:
    http://store.grandtrunkgoods.com/nano-7

    I have a 3/8thin tapered pad that is 26in wide at the shoulders for bottom insulation and a JRB Sierra Stealth Quilt rated for 40-45 degrees:
    http://www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/sierra-stealth/

    With the JRB down sleeves on my feet/legs, thin long underwear and beefy, down balaclava, I am confident my top will be warm (can add my rainwear to add additional warmth too), but I'm worried about the foam pad underneath.

    EDIT: Low now expected to be 36F. Going to take down slippers and custom-made cuben fiber down pants w/ 900fill. I'm also going to take a 0F down balaclava to go with my tapered 3/8th in, 26in wide pad. But I'm worried that all my insulation is crushable, so again it's the 38ths in pad vs. the world underneath me.

    What temp do folks usually rate a standard foam pad for?

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Bster13; 05-22-2013 at 07:14.

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    Lets see what other folks think but I would toss in a space blanket to get the reflective heat saving and maybe some Reflectix. I'd put either under the pad. YMMV.
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    This past weekend I spent the night at Stratton Pond on the southern section of the LT. I had a Term-a-Rest prolite air pad, a short piece of wally world blue foam for the shoulders, and a PLUG. I wore a medium weight base layer with medium weight socks. For a top quilt I had a 0 Deg down bag, which was more than I needed. Slept very comfortably.

    On the other hand, make sure you bring the head net. Black flies are out and eating. I have the red welts on the hands and wrists to attest to their feeding frenzy.

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    Very good data... need more! :p

    What temps did you see at night?

    Were the bugs out the entire night or as the temps dropped they went away?

    Quote Originally Posted by ne_hanger View Post
    This past weekend I spent the night at Stratton Pond on the southern section of the LT. I had a Term-a-Rest prolite air pad, a short piece of wally world blue foam for the shoulders, and a PLUG. I wore a medium weight base layer with medium weight socks. For a top quilt I had a 0 Deg down bag, which was more than I needed. Slept very comfortably.

    On the other hand, make sure you bring the head net. Black flies are out and eating. I have the red welts on the hands and wrists to attest to their feeding frenzy.

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    Long Trail in VT this wknd, is my pad enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by ne_hanger View Post
    This past weekend I spent the night at Stratton Pond on the southern section of the LT. I had a Term-a-Rest prolite air pad, a short piece of wally world blue foam for the shoulders, and a PLUG. I wore a medium weight base layer with medium weight socks. For a top quilt I had a 0 Deg down bag, which was more than I needed. Slept very comfortably.

    On the other hand, make sure you bring the head net. Black flies are out and eating. I have the red welts on the hands and wrists to attest to their feeding frenzy.
    That is one of my favorite places to go. Been there many times. Glad you enjoyed it as well.
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    Long Trail in VT this wknd, is my pad enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bster13 View Post
    What temps did you see at night?

    Were the bugs out the entire night or as the temps dropped they went away?
    Usually the bugs will go away at temps below 50*. They don't come out to play much under that temp. It sounds like you should be fine with what you have. Though only you will know for sure. It will depend on whether you are a warm or cold sleeper.
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    Now lows of 36F

    d_mn... I almost wish the bugs were coming instead of lows that low.

    EDIT: Low now expected to be 36F. Going to take down slippers and custom-made cuben fiber down pants w/ 900fill. I'm also going to take a 0F down balaclava to go with my tapered 3/8th in, 26in wide pad. But I'm worried that all my insulation is crushable, so again it's the 38ths in pad vs. the world underneath me.

    My next step up is a 15F marmot down sleeping bag. Would you go there?
    Last edited by Bster13; 05-22-2013 at 07:13.

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    Warbonnet says...

    to freezing with 3/8ths in pad:
    http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/hammocks101.php

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    Long Trail in VT this wknd, is my pad enough?

    If you already have the sleeping bags I would invest in an under quilt first. One they make the hammock more comfortable because you are laying directly on the hammock. Secondly they will help with the cold a lot easier than a pad would. I personally would start there.
    With that said I would also think about maybe a roll of reflectix to help insulate you.
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    Unfortunately I am leaving this weekend for this trip and I will not have time for mods or purchases. I'm wondering if most folks would be comfy with a 3/8th in, 26in wide pad underneath with a low of 36F? Thx.

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