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    Carabiner and Rap Rings on Big Trees

    So I am trying out the rap ring and carabiner solution with my HH Exped and I have a question. What do you do when the tree is too big for the webbing strap to wrap around? When using the traditional lashing, I have just used the suspension line to bridge the gap with no issues. Is there a solution I'm not thinking of here? Answers and suggestions much appreciated as always.

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    It all depends on what you expect to run into. With either huggers or straps one can add a piece of line. If carrying amsteel or similar I would be inclined to have a fixed length with eye splices and take up the slack in the suspension. Better in my mind is some spare webbing with sewn loops. Spare huggers if you will.

    Around here I would be surprised to deal with trees bigger than ~ 2 ft so 12 ft of strap would do the job most of the time. A 4 ft tree would use an extra 6 ft extension. If I had bigger than that I would hang somewhere else. ;-) Only you can predict what you expect to run into.
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    Two methods I have used -

    Method 1 -

    Take a length of Amsteel with dead eyes in both ends (commonly called an extender or a dogbone). Girth hitch one of the dead eyes of the dogbone to the sewn eye of your suspension webbing. Now, take the webbing around the tree and thread it through the other dead eye of the dogbone. Run your webbing through your descender rings or buckles at your hammock as you usually do.


    Method 2 -

    Take your webbing around the tree and thread it through it's own sewn eye. At the end of the webbing, take a carabiner (or if you have a sewn eye at both ends of your webbing you can run the dogbone through that) and make a marlinspike hitch in your webbing and put the carabiner through the marlinspike hitch. Girth hitch your dogbone through the rings at your hammmock and clip the other end of the dogbone into the carabiner on the webbing. You adjust your suspension tension by placing the carabiner higher or lower on the webbing and/or by doubling/quadrupling the dogbone back upon itself to shorten it's length.



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