Thanks Lost_Biker for such a good tute. I have a DL and have been experimenting with pad placement. Your idea to put an opening on opposite sides makes a lot of sense. Thank you again! Another question tho....I do not understand about pull-outs....why do you need them? Are they so you don't have to open up the hammock when you get in? Do they keep the hammock more stable? Don't the lines get in the way? Just curious here.