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    Attached Webbing vs. Whoopie Slings

    Hey Silent. Using the cinch buckle step method that you use, do you still wrap the straps as high on the tree as you would If using whoopies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalker42 View Post
    Hey Silent. Using the cinch buckle step method that you use, do you still wrap the straps as high on the tree as you would If using whoopies?
    Suspension method should not change the height of the straps on the tree. The Hammock Hang Calculator doesn't know whoopie slings from poly straps and cinch buckles:

    http://theultimatehang.com/hammock-hang-calculator/

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalker42 View Post
    Hey Silent. Using the cinch buckle step method that you use, do you still wrap the straps as high on the tree as you would If using whoopies?
    Quote Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr View Post
    Suspension method should not change the height of the straps on the tree. The Hammock Hang Calculator doesn't know whoopie slings from poly straps and cinch buckles:

    http://theultimatehang.com/hammock-hang-calculator/
    What SilvrSurfr said is correct. The height you have to have your straps on the tree has nothing to do with the type of suspension, and everything to do with the distance between the trees vs the angle you want.

    The only real difference in that respect between whoopies and straps/buckles is that with whoopies the minimum distance you can hang is larger. There's only so short you can get them. With straps, you could technically get the ends on your hammock as close as 6-8 inches away from the tree if needed. Though i can't see when or how that would ever be needed.

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    Attached Webbing vs. Whoopie Slings

    Thanks all. I just got my cinch buckles in and am about to sew the loops on my tree huggers. I'm thinking 18 foot should be about right. Unless someone yells NO DUMMY they should be...... Long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalker42 View Post
    Thanks all. I just got my cinch buckles in and am about to sew the loops on my tree huggers. I'm thinking 18 foot should be about right. Unless someone yells NO DUMMY they should be...... Long.
    That's a little long, in my opinion. Fifteen-foot straps should be fine for this area. Most trees in the Northeast aren't that big in circumference, so you're carrying a lot of extra strap for a "what if" scenario you may never see.

    When you start hanging between trees 20 ft. apart, you're going to need a ladder or something to get the straps high enough to maintain a 30 degree angle.

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    I'm looking at the tree's in the picture and wondering why 10ft straps would not be overkill. At least ample. If there are occasional big one's pack an extender.
    YMMV

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    I use 14ft straps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nothermark View Post
    I'm looking at the tree's in the picture and wondering why 10ft straps would not be overkill. At least ample. If there are occasional big one's pack an extender.
    The trees in the pic were actually too close. I needed at least another foot.
    Keep it simple. The more crap you have and the more complicated it is, the more likely it is to break. Get back to basics man!

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    Sorry, but the big deal is......?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdieGreen View Post
    The trees in the pic were actually too close. I needed at least another foot.
    I was looking at the diameter. With a Dutch hook or carabiner and a buckle in the system all you need is one turn around the tree then take up the slack with the buckle. I theory the buckle could meet the tree. In practice it's better to have at least a few inches.

    What I was looking at was that with a 2 ft tree one needs 6 ft of strap around the tree leaving say, 3 ft of adjustability and 1 ft for a keeper knot. That is at each end so there is room for 6 ft tree space differential. The trees in the picture looked like a foot or less diameter so 3 ft for the tree leaving 6 ft of adjustable room plus the keeper knot at each end. That was why I said a 10 ft strap. Really I was thinking in terms of what seems to be the standard 12 ft cargo strap by the time one removes the low strength cam buckle and sews or ties in a bigger loop for the the carabiner or Dutch clip. I think that is why we are saying a little hardware would significantly reduce the length of your straps. Multiple wraps on a tree eat up length fast.
    YMMV

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