Warbonnet XLC or Wilderness Night Owl

[sunshower]

Night Owl is on the way. I will need to finish my stand Saturday morning so I can test her out. Very cool...

would love to see the stand.. we are wanting to make two ourselves.

[Billiard Pete]

would love to see the stand.. we are wanting to make two ourselves.

I'll take a picture of it when it's done (it's a modifide version of one of the ones I found on the forum. It's out on the second floor balcony porch. I rent and can't have it in the yard...

[desmobob]

Are the Tarptents pull-outs similarly done?

Here's my concern. Seam sealing is usually done on seams that only need to be covered. The lines made by the stitching are low profile and you only need to cover a thread in height and width. With this type of pull-out on the MJ you can do the same but by only covering the thread the sealant is just riding on the surface of the webbing. It's not sealing against the sil-nylon too. I see this as a weep point.

So I'm not sure what to do here. Paint the entire web width maybe? Seal the exterior surface?

Thanks for the flowable suggestion too.

I think like you, and I chose the exterior. I sealed my Superfly guy-outs with McNett SilNett and it has proven to be water-tight.

Take it easy,
desmobob

[Billiard Pete]

Night owl is in the house...

[hutzelbein]

Are the Tarptents pull-outs similarly done?

Here's my concern. Seam sealing is usually done on seams that only need to be covered. The lines made by the stitching are low profile and you only need to cover a thread in height and width. With this type of pull-out on the MJ you can do the same but by only covering the thread the sealant is just riding on the surface of the webbing. It's not sealing against the sil-nylon too. I see this as a weep point.

So I'm not sure what to do here. Paint the entire web width maybe? Seal the exterior surface?

The Tarptent pull-outs are similar to the old WB pull-outs and I sealed the seams on both sides. I actually haven't looked closely at the new WB pull-out style. Is there webbing on both sides? I thought the webbing is only on one side. In this case, I would simply seal the seams on the other side.

[whoofit]

Thanks Desmobob and Hutzelbein for your responses. I did front and rear the with thinned Silicon II way. Did the rear multiple coats. The webbing absorbed the mixture like a sponge and dried so that it's hard to tell that it's sealed by looking. Worked like a charm all night last night in the rain. Very happy with the look and performance.

Hutzlbein, the MJ has webbing on both sides but most of the webbing is on the inside in a gull-wing pattern. Thanks again!

[warbonnetguy]

All panel pull style tieouts are going to have some type of "reinforcement fabric" on the backside (this is necessary for strength) as far as sealing goes, it would not matter if it's fabric or GGR webbing (which is basically just narrow fabric), the only thing we changed was the shape of this reinfrocement patch and the specific material it was made of. We switched from the round patch to the butterfly shaped patch because it's stronger and doesn't stress the fabric as much when under load. We made this switch well over a year ago so it's nothing new. Method for sealing would be the same for any style of panel pulls....Silicone on the underside of the tarp only, on the stitches only, and as thin as possible and use some force with your finger to force it into the stitches as much as you can.

[hutzelbein]

Good to know, thanks.