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    sewing machine part missing

    Ok, I started trying to thread my new sewing machine and all was going well until I reached the needle where I realized that I am obviously missing a critical part. The thread guide at the needle is missing. (im apparently also missing the "cutter" but im not too worried about that) The thread guide apparently attaches to the needle bar just above the needle clamp thumb screw. There is a threaded hole there that goes straight through the needle bar. While I believe I have potentially found the part I need, I am still lacking a screw at this point but have plans to try to remedy that as well. This is the part from the manual and the part I purchased in the insert....ignore the fuzz, I haven't cleaned it yet



    Now, I also replaced the needle that was in the machine with a new one and according to the manual I should insert the needle "as far into the needle hole as it will go." I inserted the needle until it stopped- mind you I did this before I realized the guide/screw was missing. So, in doing this the needle hole is somewhat tapered which caused the needle to sit crooked in the hole. I am ASSUMING this is because it was inserted too high in the groove, Im also ASSUMING that the screw that holds the thread guide in place is what would normally stop the needle and ensure it is inserted to the proper depth. Am I correct in assuming this? Here are a couple of pics of the needle bar where you can see the two holes, the lower one being where the screw for the needle clamp rests (more of a divot than a hole) and the top one being for the guide screw.






    Hopefully the part i ordered will work and i can find a screw to fit as well. Otherwise I may need to resort to some JB Weld and a paper clip, ha ha. If I cant get this resolved I may be up that certain creek without the proverbial paddle. Whatcha think?

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    The thread guide could be improvised, but not the needle holder... it's at a precise depth. . .

    Take it to a sewing machine shop, I bet they have the part laying about...

    John
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    To start with what is the make and model of the machine? There are a lot of old machines and parts around on the web. I can also tell you that on a Singer Featherweight the screw that holds the presser foot lever uses a 6-40 thread shoulder screw and I have the helicoil kit... ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSawyer View Post
    The thread guide could be improvised, but not the needle holder... it's at a precise depth. . .

    Take it to a sewing machine shop, I bet they have the part laying about...

    John
    Now I have the needle clamp with thumb screw if thats what youre referring to. Its just not installed in the pics....or is there something else missing?

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    Dont jb weld it, you'll need to use that for needle changes.
    Find the right screw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nothermark View Post
    To start with what is the make and model of the machine?
    Oops, sort of critical info I left out there eh? Its a Japanese made White brand model 714. Appears to be the same machine as a Viking Eatons 714. Looks like this:


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    OH! THAT machine... well... I'll save you some trouble... just ship it to me and get something else...

    As long as you have the parts, that machine should serve you well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSawyer View Post
    OH! THAT machine... well... I'll save you some trouble... just ship it to me and get something else...

    As long as you have the parts, that machine should serve you well...

    John
    He he, nice try . If I can just find a darn screw thatll fit i think ill be ok. I really do think that the thread quide screw, inserted into the needle bar is what the butt of the needle sits against to get the needle at the right depth. I see no other way. Just cant find a screw. I brought home some of the tiniest screws I can find, hundreds of them of all types and theyre all too big. Like you said, I can probably improvise something but Lord knows what at this point. If the screw IS indeed what sets the needle depth and I have to use something different it may throw the needle timing off with the hook which in case I guess I could merely adjust the needle bar a little. *Shrug*

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    Well worth taking that old timer to a good shop for parts as well as their tweaking and timing adjustments... every 20 or 30 years whether it needs it or not... it's a keeper!

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