The 1.9 DL switchback is my first cottage vendor hammock, and my absolute favorite hammock. I am still using pads for insulation, and they work extremely well. I have had no pad creep, and stay warm to the temps I camp in, in Alberta (think short 3 season). John and Darby were wonderful to deal with, and I saved on shipping (sort of) by having mine hand delivered to Hot Springs NC, for the April hang, in 2010.