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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammonkey View Post
    Interesting... but looks convoluted, complex, heavy, and a pain in the *** to setup... not to mention WAY too expensive.
    If something works and works well with many years to it. Price is not a big issue. If it does not then it is.

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    I would like to see some independent test runs of this rig. I think I have seen a similarly fitted tarp somewhere on the net, but can't recall where...
    They have combined a few items many of us use, e.g. gear hammock, bug net, fitted tarp in a new way.
    There are probably more campers and hikers who are not UL than are UL. For those folks this looks like a useful product.

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    How high in the tree is it attached?

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    the first time i saw the video i thought that it would be a pain to set up, as he is rigging it super high in the tree. the more i thought about it though i think it is just a bad shot, where the ground sloped down from the tree there. If you trade out those thick ropes with some zing it and some dutch tarp flyz, i think the set up would be the same. Plus this would stop my suspension from rocking in to my tarp lines every time i roll over in my hammock.
    it looks really cool, but i would be worries about heat and smoke retention. if i am cooking a wood fire under the tarp in the rain, is all my smoke going to collect in the top of it?

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    Gear stow and roomy bug net are real nice..
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    I'm really debating over this. I don't need it, but darn it it's cool. I like the idea and for the amount of coverage and bad weather features the weight and price don't seem bad.

    There's a couple more weeks left for donations, but me being the way I am will probably end up with one just for the cool factor.

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    2.24 pounds..are you kidding me right now?

    Plus that looks extremely complicated, and over engineered, as with a lot of things. I get out to enjoy the simpleness of the mountains, not try and bring my house with me.

    People would do better to try and adapt to their environment, instead trying to make the environment adapt to them. That is exactly what all the name brand gear companies try and get us to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mugs View Post
    2.24 pounds..are you kidding me right now?
    The 2.24 lbs is with those huge ropes they are using on all the lines. If those are switched out for zing it then it would shave off some weight.
    Plus I just looked up the weight of a parts and pieces system if you wanted to do the same thing.

    Warbonnet superfly : 19 oz
    ENO bug net : 16.5 oz
    ENO gear sling : 8oz

    Total = 43.5 oz (2.71lbs)

    So even with the huge cords this thing is 7 oz lighter then a similar system you could buy now.
    And speaking of the superfly, it seems like this would be an easier alternative to doors. If you need the wind protection you can hang it lower, putting you in the bubble. And when you don't need the doors you hang it higher. I've never had a tarp with doors. Those who have, is it a pain getting in and out,( midnight Bathroom breaks) with the doors fully closed. And do you think this could make it easier?

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    Neat idea, and Zigerot has a point on that weight. I could see this for anyone who thinks a hammock with built in bug net was confining or too small would enjoy this idea. I imagined the bug net ripping off until they put a grown man in it! Once the lines are changed and you think about setting it up like a regular tarp it doesn't seem too complicated. Set your hammock in the gear nest and feed it through top your straps, or possible pack it all together then hang the tarp and just connect straps. Only time will tell, but I'm not giving up my superfly any time soon.

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    That bug net/storage is one of the coolest hammocking innovations I've seen in a long time! The biggest drawback to the system that I can see is it looks like it would flap around quite a bit in the wind.
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