Except you're missing one element he wants - the DIY aspect.Originally Posted by kwpapke
turk, I'm interested in how you use the figure 9's - is the modification mentioned the one where you file down the teeth?
I wonder if a silk hammock might be lighter?
turk-
Sounds like a solid setup for your style of adventure. What are you going to do about bugs in the Travel hammock? Separate bug net, clothing, chemicals, or are they not an issue where you're headed? If you're looking to shave grams maybe go with a single layer 1.1 BB. It would still be a lighter option than a separate bug netting, more comfortable than sleeping in layers of clothing, and probably safer than coating yourself in bug juice. Course, all of this assumes bugs are an issue.
You are going to love that tarp!
Happy summer hiking!
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Interesting...I get more concerned that interested newbie hammockers think that HH is their only option since that is all they see at the local REI...this forum opened my eyes to a WORLD of possibilities that exist outside of HH and REIBefore someone pillories me, weight does not include my down bag.
OK, so you can't get down to the SUL weight with a stock configuration. The only point I was trying to make was that we get a number of newbies in this forum, and I get concerned at times that new visitors walk away thinking that hammock camping requires a custom configuration from many vendors. You can actually get fairly compact and lightweight with an off-the-shelf system from one vendor.
--Kurt
While I agree that HH sells complete set-ups, the options in hammocking is one of my favorite aspects. A tent is a one option choice (can't switch flys and tent bodies)...hammocks have the customization that appeals to me.
That and I personally find HH to be uncomfortable to use (bottom entry) and sleep in.
And that is why CHOICES are a beautiful thing!
sorry for the drift...back on topic
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Turk,
I am also interested in your figure 9 system. Could you give us some more details?
kmat
the 3 season i just sold cannibal was around 15-16oz, +5oz ccf is around 20 for bottom insul. i think the extra weight of netting (built in or sock) is worth it in summer. if you don't think being fully enclosed in the peapod to get bug protection would be a problem then it is an option, but i think going tq+ccf or tq+short ccf+torso uq, will save enough weight to offset bringing a full net.
14.5 oz; dreamy.
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Your insulation is the obvious qustion. The weight between most open top hammocks is insignificant and is less important than comfort. What temp's do you plan on hanging in and how much insulation do you think you need is required info for anybody to point you in the right direction. We need to know your flexible range.
I do not need any insulation through out the "United States of America Summer". In my part of the USA it's always hot and humid. So I guess I'm no help.
Your suspension setup is interesting. You will drop the tree huggers in favor of using twigs and a Jedi mind trick to hold them in place. You then will pack 9's for faster tarp setup.
Whats DIY about a Warbonnet hammock??Except you're missing one element he wants - the DIY aspect.
Turk, do tell about the figure 9 suspension set up you're using. I prefer cord over webbing, currently I'm still using the garda hitch but I'm always up for trying a better way
thanks for all the comments and advice folks. I am taking notes.
the temps of our summers often hit mid 30's F at night. When packrafting,
the campsites are inevitably just off a rivers edge. When the cold hits, it
hits hard and fast, and this usually means an hour or two of heavy rolling
fog off the river, and lots of condensation over all your gear. This same thing
happens again just after sun up in the morning.
I am also a bit of a cold sleeper. I think the fact that no matter how careful
I am with my paddling clothing, i always manage to get my camp clothes just
a little damp, and so get chilled easier.
the bug netting I intended to use with the peapod is a diamond shaped
swatch roughly 12" x12" and mates directly to the peapod. basically its just
a tiny face hole covering to give some bug protection for the only portion
of the peapod that is generally open - near my face.
I would really like to avoid using a pad, unless there is some miracle pad
out there that packs incredibly small. I would be intrigued to learn more
about kwpapke's OCF pad that fits in such a small dry bag.
I had not considered 3/4 uq's. This has been a major oversight. Thanks
for bringing that to my attention. So far I have fallen deeply in love with
both warbonnet products I have purchased. perhaps a yeti would make
a good summer quilt for up here.
it sounds like several people have shaved serious weight with diy quilts.
I am wondering what kind of temp ranges these quilts are performing for
you in. I have a big problem with air drafts using top quilts wide open.
I toss and turn a good deal in my sleep. I find a full mummy bag still
very desirable to keep out chilly air drafts when i am going with a minimal
UQ. but I am very open to tips and ideas on something new.
as for the super secret new figure 9 suspension method .... well if you
watch my show, we deomonstrated JRB tri-glides in episode 3. I am
very anti-buckle-and-webbing. In episode 4 you will get to see first hand
my new super slick NEW method of using a single modified large Figure 9,
and standard line suspension.
I have a case of beer at stake as to wether or not I can pitch my
hammock and be in it in 15 seconds or less. without hitting dirt, and
catching it all on film. You'll have to catch episode 4 to see the results
thanks for all the help with this hammock set up. keep the ideas rolling.
I am open to any crazy far out ideas as long as the logic is sound.
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