We have settled on the Creekside campsite for the 3rd annual Grinder's Birthday Hang. As of this time this is the tentative location dependent on the water conditions. Google Earth; 'Ruck's Dairy Farm Rd., Frostproof Fl' will place you at the trail head just south of Livingston Creek bridge. I am going to ask samsara to insert the maps and hiking direction. Looking forward to seeing everyone there.