New Math: 1" = 2" for tree straps

**Jsaults** · 10-31-2013, 21:40

There was a very long discussion in this thread (https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...ad.php?t=81462) and I got to thinking (dangerous!) and I believe there is a quick and expedient solution.

If you use 1" strap & buckle suspension it is possible to quickly turn the tree wrap into what is effectively 2".

I would post pics, but it is rainy and I do not have access to a suitable tree, so I hope you can follow along.

1. Strap free end (w/Dutch Clip or 'biner) rises from hammock and passes around tree.
2. Strap free end makes a 180 deg wrap around itself and again passes around the treein the opposite direction.
3. Strap free end clips to the section rising from the hammock.
4. Adjust the strap sections to lie flat and not overlap.

One inch strap now distributes pressure like a two inch strap.

Jim

**Bubba** · 10-31-2013, 21:59

I've done something similar in the past using JRB triglides and webbing. What I did was basically a larkshead. I folded over some webbing and put the free ends through a triglide creating a continuous loop of sorts. I put the fold of the webbing around the tree and fed the free ends with the triglide through that loop. The triglide can be moved closer to the tree for webbing length adjustments and a whoopie sling just goes over the triglide.

**oldgringo** · 11-01-2013, 14:53

I like this...will try tomorrow night.

**UncleMJM** · 11-01-2013, 15:33

Interesting.

This sounds like the first two wraps of the Speer 4 Wrap Knot but instead of tying it off using the clip/biner to attach and end. I've used the knot for simple suspensions but never thought about the benefit of spreading the force over a wider range.

I may give this a try too.

**altruistguy** · 11-01-2013, 19:33

This is a GREAT idea! I thought that Randy's deal where he makes a 2" strap and sews it to a 1" strap was a great thing, but this one may be better (certainly easier and less expensive). You'd need a fair amount longer 1" webbing, though.

**Rain Man** · 11-01-2013, 19:39

Very interesting! Always interested in another arrow in my quiver. Thanks and ... why didn't I think of that?! LOL

Rain Man

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**jbrescue** · 11-01-2013, 20:32

Why not just turn it into a tensionless hitch and tie it off around itself. This is normally done with rope, but will work with webbing. http://www.animatedknots.com/tensionless/

**Rain Man** · 11-02-2013, 09:16

Originally Posted by jbrescue

Why not just turn it into a tensionless hitch and tie it off around itself. This is normally done with rope, but will work with webbing. http://www.animatedknots.com/tensionless/

That wouldn't spread the compression force. It'd still be 1", not 2". Indeed, as it's the friction that holds that line, it'd be placing tremendous sideways force on the bark and cambian layer, not just compression force, as I see it.

That said, it is a hitch I used to use in my old days of vertical caving, to avoid knots.

Rain Man

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**Jsaults** · 11-02-2013, 10:11

They are, I believe, 15 ft. I figure that if the trees are really large that the abrasive force is spread over a greater area, and if the trees are really far apart I can pad the straps with kindling.

That is my hypothesis until tested.

Jim

**jbrescue** · 11-02-2013, 17:25

What about a wrap three, pull two? We use these all the time for anchors and they are super strong. Also disperses the weight a lot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPHytS3E0_E