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    I asked hammock gear about wr down, and yes, theirs use wr exclusively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cba191 View Post
    I asked hammock gear about wr down, and yes, theirs use wr exclusively.
    wrong thread?

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    UQ all the way. There is just nothing easier or more comfortable.
    If you have to go to ground bushcraft style. do the pine bows and use the UQ for a pillow or on top of your SB.

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    I need to clarify this, I am looking at using the Doobie outside the hammock when hanging or inside the hammock when set up on the ground. My Wiggy's 20* bag is insulated with Lamilite (a beefier/sturdier version of Climashield) and amazingly warm to 20 but for chillier climes and/or more padding the Kifaru Doobie looks more durable and versatile than any UQ. Has anyone replaced their UQ qith a Doobie or Woobie? I like versatility in my gear, especially when I'm packing is very wet places. The Doobie "seems" like a viable alterantive to the down UQ and can serve me in a greater number of ways...including as a blind. See images at http://store.kifaru.net/woobie-p72.aspx

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    I looked at the Kifaru Woobie/Doobie, the Woobie Express, and the Hill People Gear Mountain Serape as UQ stand ins. None of them has the requisites for installing a decent suspension. So I made my own.

    Its basically a 72" X 60" quilt with 2.5 Climashield with a 1.1 MarPat outer shell and 1.1 Coyote inner shell with channels on all sides for running shock cord thru, and snaps along all edges that allows it to be shaped into different configurations. It can be used as either a top or bottom quilt, ground quilt, sleeping bag, or blanket, same as a woobie, but optimized for hammock use.

    Its not water or windproof, but if used in conjunction with a sil poncho, it does a pretty good job of keeping you warm in camp if you're not using it as a UQ. Right now I'm looking for some good DWR fabric that's light weight and reasonably windproof, but I'm having a hard time finding any in a camo pattern that I like that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

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    Interesting

    Way to DIY there guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sargevining View Post
    I looked at the Kifaru Woobie/Doobie, the Woobie Express, and the Hill People Gear Mountain Serape as UQ stand ins. None of them has the requisites for installing a decent suspension. So I made my own.

    Its basically a 72" X 60" quilt with 2.5 Climashield with a 1.1 MarPat outer shell and 1.1 Coyote inner shell with channels on all sides for running shock cord thru, and snaps along all edges that allows it to be shaped into different configurations. It can be used as either a top or bottom quilt, ground quilt, sleeping bag, or blanket, same as a woobie, but optimized for hammock use.

    Its not water or windproof, but if used in conjunction with a sil poncho, it does a pretty good job of keeping you warm in camp if you're not using it as a UQ. Right now I'm looking for some good DWR fabric that's light weight and reasonably windproof, but I'm having a hard time finding any in a camo pattern that I like that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
    The problem I see with a Kifaru Woobie/Doobie or any type of insulated blanket as an UQ is the insulation compression when you pull it up to the bottom of your hammock.
    Poor sealing on the sides and ends.
    Plus large air gaps will give you cold spots.

    UQ's have an inside and outside. When the inside is pulled up tight the insulation is allowed to loft do to the UQ's design.
    Sides and ends are design to seal around the hammock.
    No blanket does that.

    OP if you want a blanket for multi uses fine but it's going to make a crappy UQ when you need it for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutandBack View Post
    The problem I see with a Kifaru Woobie/Doobie or any type of insulated blanket as an UQ is the insulation compression when you pull it up to the bottom of your hammock.
    Poor sealing on the sides and ends.
    Plus large air gaps will give you cold spots.

    UQ's have an inside and outside. When the inside is pulled up tight the insulation is allowed to loft do to the UQ's design.
    Sides and ends are design to seal around the hammock.
    No blanket does that.

    OP if you want a blanket for multi uses fine but it's going to make a crappy UQ when you need it for that.
    you mean it is not diff cut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttysquirrel View Post
    you mean it is not diff cut?
    A lot of that depends on the width and length of the UQ. My quilt isn't differentially cut, and its been working well. Cinching up the ends takes care of the air gaps there and they are wide enough that they come up past the sides of the hammock. Its not ultra-light, but it isn't intended to be. Its designed more for back country and hunting use and to be as versatile as a military woobie is.

    Give me a bayonet and a woobie, and I'll take over the world.




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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttysquirrel View Post
    you mean it is not diff cut?
    Thank you I knew it was called something.
    I'll bet a quilt maker could take a woobie and build a diff cut UQ with those materials even leaving the excess material so it could still be used as a blanket then you would have the best of both worlds.
    Just something to think about...

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