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    Strenght of amsteel

    I know knots arent recommended for amsteel, but how about a marlin spike hitch? I am tyrying an ultrlight suspension by minimizimg the amout of webbing usedd, thanks again.

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    The issue is the diameter of the loop relative to the thickness of the amsteel. I'm trying to envision where you would tie a marlinspike hitch in the amsteel. In any case it would be doing a tight loop around itself under load.
    YMMV

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    Just thinking about that......

    Howdy. If you are talking about using it in lieu of tree straps, don't forget to protect the tree!! Interested in the weight to strength myself....

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    The manufacturer Samson Rope recommends splices instead of knots to maintain optimal breaking strength. Anything you plan on doing with a marlin spike hitch will be stronger if you use a splice.

    Don't know how to splice and don't plan on learning? You probably need to find another rope then.
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    No, I was going to use a relatively short piece of webbing, with a loop in each side. But then on one side have the am steel girth hitched to one of the loops, to act as an extender/ marlin spike hitch area.

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    You could do the same thing by attaching a long amsteel UCR to the short webbing and connect it directly to the hammock or with a Dutch hook, soft shackle, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrulewax View Post
    I know knots arent recommended for amsteel, but how about a marlin spike hitch? I am tyrying an ultrlight suspension by minimizimg the amout of webbing usedd, thanks again.
    I'm using a 3/4" dowel with a hole drilled in it instead of a marlinspike. I saw it recommended by someone here and tried it.

    Drill a hole perpendicular to the axis of a a 1-1/2" length of 3/4" hardwood dowel. Round out the ends of the hole. Slip the end of your amsteel through the hole, and adjust the dowel to the position you want it. Slip a half hitch over each end of the dowel (creating a clove hitch) and put some strain on the line to tighten things up. The hitch holds quite well, even with slippery amsteel. I don't remember who originally posted to give proper credit. They were using a single half hitch around the dowel successfully, but the times I tried it without the second half hitch I slid slowly down to the ground.

    YMMV.

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    What I was looking at was using the marlin spike as my only adjustability, and using continuous loops on the hammock.

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    I believe a Marlin spike hitch is probably one of the few knots that is not so hard on Amsteel Blue.

    It spreads the bend over a wider area and so less stress on individual fibers the way other knots can.
    I'd recommend a soft shackle if it will work for your scenario.
    The toggle can drop out of a Marlin Spike hitch when the rope goes slack during adjustment. It's not a big deal, just check that the hitch looks correct before you put any weight on it.

    You can end up on the ground if you forgot to check:-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrulewax View Post
    What I was looking at was using the marlin spike as my only adjustability, and using continuous loops on the hammock.
    That's what I am using with the dowels instead of the marlinspike. You can reposition the dowel anywhere along the amsteel line, and I use a continuous loop at each end of the hammock to hang from the toggle.

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