D**n Rider your smooth.
D**n Rider your smooth.
Most of us end up poorer here but richer for being here. Olddog, Fulltime hammocker, 365 nights a year.
It's not too clear to me whether the OP is talking about:
Down vs synthetic
or
Sleeping bag vs quilt system
A lot of the 'quilt is lighter' arguments don't seem too convincing to me.
"I replaced my 4lb down sleeping bag with a 1 lb TQ" stuff.....
Oh, I forgot: "Relationship counseling is down the hall; different office." ;-)
"Syn retains some insulation qualities when wet, and can in ideal situations even be dried out by your own body heat, and certainly dries out easier in the field."
I have been thinking about buying a down top quilt in the future to replace my syn sleeping bag. I never thought about how well each one would perform in water. I recently was on a trip where I got soaked in my hammock (wasn't aware that the top of the DH dangerbird was not waterproof) and my sleeping bag got soaked. After about an hour of running around in the rain trying to get warm I tried getting back into my wet sleeping bag and was amazed that it was still able to keep my warm, even while being completely soaked. I will definitely keep this in mind in the future before buying down.
Very simple. I am switching from synthetic to down. Save space and weight.Originally Posted by VictoriaGuy
It's not too clear to me whether the OP is talking about:
Down vs synthetic
or
Sleeping bag vs quilt system
A lot of the 'quilt is lighter' arguments don't seem too convincing to me.
"I replaced my 4lb down sleeping bag with a 1 lb TQ" stuff.....
Oh, I forgot: "Relationship counseling is down the hall; different office." ;-)
I switched after stuffing a cheap syn bag inside a new Pinnacle. I was still trying to use a rolled up CCF pad for an internal frame. Pretty much filled up the entire barrel.
A decent TQ/UQ combo takes up just under a 1/3 of the same space and eliminated the pad for me altogether. Removing Synthetic insulation + Pad was a huge amount of bulk.
Going to down not only saved me bulk/weight penalty, but also allowed me to drop significant weight points by letting me carry every thing in a pack that just weights 2 lbs, by itself. The combination really allowed me to lighten up quick in a major way.
With the inclusion of my BIAS kit, I officially declared my attack upon the dreaded "Big 3" a rousing success.
Went right out. Broke my toothbrush in half and went looking for a proper drill bit
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Well ideally this is the reason you would take 20 minutes to test things out/ research your equipment before going on a trip... the results can be dangerous otherwise. With the proper gear your down should never get more than a little damp.
That being said while I use a down bag and am planning to make an underquilt, I also use a torso pad and mylar blanket as part of my sleep system. This way if I ever have to go to ground (or in your situation get all my stuff wet somehow) I could at the very least survive the night if not get the best sleep of my life.
Not saying my sythnetic bag hasn't served me well, but with a little planning that shouldn't be an issue.
I use a couple small Reflectix sit pads. I'd usually rather slip one of those into a cold spot than wrestle with my suspension, and that doesn't happen much. Usually ends up under the hammock on the ground, with something on it to keep it from blowing away.
The other can go into the foot box if needed, but I keep my down jacket in the hammock under my feet and legs. Doing that also must kill calf ridge and all that other stuff I don't seem to experience, and as an added plus, the jacket is already warm and close at hand for those early morning excursions
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