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    Quote Originally Posted by Great White View Post
    Thanks for posting those images. I have not been lucky enough to observe a coral snake in the wild. But I did see that cotton mouth, so I guess the group saw two different types of venomous snakes. That is the real Florida. That is why I go to the backcountry.
    Add in the pygmy rattler that we saw the first year and that is a very nice collection of Florida's poisonous snakes in one small area

    Are you sure it was a cotton mouth? Regular old water snakes can look very similar but not have the triangular head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richtorfla View Post
    Great pictures! Dog, loved the pic of sandykayak and her dog sherpa! Good stuff!

    I thought I saw the kitchen sink hanging off Sandy's sherpa.😃
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    Quote Originally Posted by hangNyak View Post
    I thought I saw the kitchen sink hanging off Sandy's sherpa.😃
    I am sure she had it packed in there somewhere! She is a master of packing everything you need to have a good experience!!

    I am still amazed how much equipment was hauled in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floridahanger View Post
    The talk around the firepit included ways to remember a coral snake.
    My .02, "Red touches yellow, your a dead fellow. Red touches black, your an ok Jack"

    The first is the beautiful and most venomous in Florida, Coral Snake. The second is the equally beautiful, but not venomous, King Snake.
    I always remember it as "FSU will kill you".

    Impressive photos there, craigc! I've seen at least two coral or king snakes out in the wild before (both scurried off before I could make positive ID, which makes me think they were coral snakes; king snakes tend to be a bit more aggressive), but I've never had the chance to take a photo of either of 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samsara View Post
    Add in the pygmy rattler that we saw the first year and that is a very nice collection of Florida's poisonous snakes in one small area

    Are you sure it was a cotton mouth? Regular old water snakes can look very similar but not have the triangular head.

    Dave
    Well without a photo it is hard to get a solid confirmation. I am not sure of the shape of the head. From what I have read in Florida's Snakes A Guide to Their Identification and Habits by R. D. Bartlett and Patricia Bartlett, I think it was a Cottonmouth. The body was dark with a faded diamond like pattern on its sides. From the photographs in the book it most resembles the body of the Eastern Cottonmouth. The descriptions of the Florida Cottonmouth, Banded Water Snake and the Brown Water Snake all match what I observed, however.

    The described behaviour of the Cottonmouth resembles what I observed, they mention the Cottonmouth being a bold snake that will make a slow departure when disturbed. They also state the snake will not submerge when in the water but swim on the surface with its head held high out of the water, a harmless water snake do not do that and would be completely submerged, according to the authors.

    That description matches what I saw, a snake on the surface swimming toward some vines in the water. Only when it climbed the vines did it make any attempt to hide.

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    G W had I been there I would have made a positive ID for you and if it was the dreaded Cottonmouth the next thing you would have heard would be the Judge and 410 birdshot putting an end to its existence. I have a deep respect and love for most of my fellow inhabitants on this beautiful planet but that one does not need to be here.
    Most of us end up poorer here but richer for being here. Olddog, Fulltime hammocker, 365 nights a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olddog View Post
    G W had I been there I would have made a positive ID for you and if it was the dreaded Cottonmouth the next thing you would have heard would be the Judge and 410 birdshot putting an end to its existence. I have a deep respect and love for most of my fellow inhabitants on this beautiful planet but that one does not need to be here.


    I take it you've had some bad experience with this critter? 😃
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    One Cottomouth we encountered in 3 Lakes tells me that they live up to the reputation of being aggressive and having a white mouth and it was _not_ a Black Racer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hangNyak View Post
    I take it you've had some bad experience with this critter? ��
    Quite a few. Back in the old days we used the round cork bobbers. Had one try to eat the bobber. Had them try to get fish off the stringer. Chased backwards off of a log we used to cross the Little Withlacoochee. Fired 15 rounds of 22cal. never hit him and he just kept coming. Pinned ones head down with my boot by accident and his body slapped my leg. Jumped so high that I think I shot him before my feet hit the ground.
    Most of us end up poorer here but richer for being here. Olddog, Fulltime hammocker, 365 nights a year.

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    Here's the link for travel-sized items that I promised to send to ????

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