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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratdog View Post
    Argon is plenty downproof but tears pretty easily.

    Almost all of the snap attachment points have torn out of my argon underquilt.
    snap attachments are notoriously evil to fabric. For DIY grosgrain reinforcements should do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izraelius View Post
    Also, since it is the most breathable will it "release" more heat out of the down?
    Oops, read that wrong, releasing heat not down. I don't know but I'd assume in windy conditions it would release more heat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushwhacker View Post
    snap attachments are notoriously evil to fabric. For DIY grosgrain reinforcements should do the trick.
    Was cottage vendor made with grosgrain reinforcements.
    I'll be sending it back for repair shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratdog View Post
    Was cottage vendor made with grosgrain reinforcements.
    I'll be sending it back for repair shortly.
    Ouch. That stinks.
    Last edited by Bushwhacker; 03-19-2014 at 06:37.

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    Thank you, I just had my questions about Argon answered.

    My experience with snaps is they tear out easily if not supported properly. At one time I made shirts for my husband, I used snaps instead of buttons. If I did not put a firm material such as grosgrain ribbon as a backing (sandwiched between the fashion fabric the snaps would rip out right away).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRONFISH45 View Post
    Thank you, I just had my questions about Argon answered.

    My experience with snaps is they tear out easily if not supported properly. At one time I made shirts for my husband, I used snaps instead of buttons. If I did not put a firm material such as grosgrain ribbon as a backing (sandwiched between the fashion fabric the snaps would rip out right away).
    Mine is the non mini ripstop version.
    There is a newer version with the micro ripstop grid.
    Also, I have used my quilt just about every night since receiving it as a Christmas gift, 70+ nights.
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    AYCE at thru-hiker.com has been doing this (selling extreme quality DIY hiker gear) for a long time, and he probably has more knowledge about the fabrics available for making quilts than any single person on earth. He has had at one time or another several other products than silnylon for his DIY quilt kits. Currently Momentum is the best he will sell to his customers. I have been extremely happy with my momentum quilt. Before you buy, check with him, he's friendly and will respond to emails, about fabrics. If there is something out there equivalent to momentum he knows about it, and he knows the pros and cons.

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    Snaps bad, velcro good.

    By the time you add some reinforcement fabric for snaps, you just blew past the weight budget for an ultralight quilt ....

    As just jeff used to say, ounces to grams...

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    So what's the difference between UL Argon and Argon CS90

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    ul argon is 10 d is now ripstop and 69. oz. per square yd, cs90 double ripstop ( two reinforcing threads intead of one in ul argon)and is 20 d and .90 oz psy.

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