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    Help with a buckle system

    So after using a stock claytor suspension system for 3 years now I am making the switch.

    I have chosen to go to a cinch buckle system. It looks a little easier and no slippage to worry about. So here is what I have gathered, please add advice and words of wisdom wherever you see fit. Thanks in advance for everyone's help.

    I started with the cinch buckles recommended by Just Jeff. http://www.onrope1.com/store/index.p...d=118&parent=0

    Next I plan on heading to the climbing store and picking up some nylon webbing. 1 inch thick to fit the buckles and rated at at least 1000lbs. I saw some last time I was there that was rated at 3800lbs and I think I'll probably go with that. Any thing I missed here?

    I will also need 2 carabiners. I figure I will take the advice of the climbing store on these although suggestions would be welcome here as well.

    Climbing rope: Just Jeff reccomends spider line, I am not familiar with climbing rope so I will just ask for it by name at the climbing store. I also plan on using the same knots to attach the rope to the buckle. 2 questions...

    How much in length do I need?

    Is this the best option for a claytor since I will be threading it through the channel as oposed to tying it to the end of the hammock?

    as seen here of course http://www.tothewoods.net/HammockCampingSuspension.html


    I am not an experienced sewer by any stretch of the imagination so I plan on tying the webbing to the carabiners. Any knot suggestions or should I really look into learning to sew?

    Any other tips would be appreciated as well. Thanks in advance for everyone's help.

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    I don't think you will find spiderline at a climbing store. Anything rated for 1000 lbs should do fine. Try to keep it as thin as possible sso it doesn't interfear with the buckle. One yard should be fine. You want the buckle close to the hammock end so you don't limit your hanging possiblilities. I would just run it through the channel since it is there. If you can't sew, find someoen with a machine to make your straps. It is real easy to do and it isn't anything you need experience for, just a machine.
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    I would not suggest climbing webbing as it is usually nylon and can stretch rather badly. Lots of folks like the strapworks products. I use the polypro, many others use the seatbelt weave polyester.

    Strap works will make a "simple sling with the loops sewn in. By it double the length you want and cut it in half. Melt the cut edges with a lighter and you are good to go.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosef View Post
    ...picking up some nylon webbing....Any thing I missed here?
    You don't want to use nylon webbing. It stretches under load, by design. That's great for handling the dynamic forces that climbers subject it to, but not for hanging purposes where the loads are static. Polyester or PolyPro is a much better choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yosef View Post
    How much in length do I need?
    Perhaps 12 ft per hammock end of webbing, and perhaps 2-3 feet of cording per end.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yosef View Post
    Any other tips would be appreciated as well. Thanks in advance for everyone's help.
    I wrote a detailed explanation here about putting a webbing suspension on a Hennessy Hammock, but most of it applies nicely to your chosen hammock.

    Another resource that you should have a look at are Grizz's suspension demonstration videos. Part 1 , Part 2 , Part 3.

    Good luck! Let us know how it works out..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    I would not suggest climbing webbing as it is usually nylon and can stretch rather badly. Lots of folks like the strapworks products. I use the polypro, many others use the seatbelt weave polyester.

    Strap works will make a "simple sling with the loops sewn in. By it double the length you want and cut it in half. Melt the cut edges with a lighter and you are good to go.
    where would you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosef View Post
    where would you find this?
    www.strapworks.com

    Do a search for the "simple sling" and you will find the product I referred to.

    edit... that's bizarre... the page is blank... how strange.

    edit the edit.....

    http://www.strapworks.com/SearchResu...x=0&Search.y=0

    Try that
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    www.strapworks.com

    Do a search for the "simple sling" and you will find the product I referred to.

    edit... that's bizarre... the page is blank... how strange.

    edit the edit.....

    http://www.strapworks.com/SearchResu...x=0&Search.y=0

    Try that
    awesome thanks! Do I go with the Seatbelt webbing or the polyester?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosef View Post
    awesome thanks! Do I go with the Seatbelt webbing or the polyester?
    Go with the seatbelt. It's very strong, and much lighter than the regular polyester.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    Go with the seatbelt. It's very strong, and much lighter than the regular polyester.
    Got it. Now are the carabiners from strap works ok to use as well and do you reccomend an oval D shape or locking? And do they sell the proper cordage? If so I can knock this out with one order.

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    As my questioning continues I am looking at Spyderline right now and have 2 questions. What size? I saw 5/32 referenced a few times but saw that the 1/8 is strong enough so I didn't know what the consensus was and would love to find out. I am assuming that maybe the 1/8 slips in the cinch buckle and gets the alignment off or maybe thats wrong.

    Second is Spyderline what I want. It is what just jeff used so i figured its what i need unless told otherwise.

    Thanks to everyone again for all the help this has been wonderful! Thanks again.

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