Hanging from rocks

**Scratch** · 06-22-2009, 22:17

Does anyone routinely hang their hammocks from rocks or rock faces, instead of trees? Do you use stopper nuts from a rock climbing supplier, or do you make your own (what & how?) or do you have some other ingenious method you'd like to share?

**Roadtorque** · 06-22-2009, 22:36

Probably find some good reading here

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**warbonnetguy** · 06-22-2009, 22:41

you could take few assorted sizes of small stoppers/nuts and/or maybe a few small cams (1" or less) not worth carrying anything bigger than that imo. you could jam an appropriate sized rock in the crack but you'll need to be somewhat more creative and it may take quite a bit of tinkering. you can use a monkey's fist as a stopper if you know how to tie them.

i used to do quite a bit of climbing a few years back. i think i've only hung from rock twice. i think once i had some gear and another time i slung the top of a small boulder with a double shoulder length runner.

**Scratch** · 06-22-2009, 22:50

Thanks, Roadtorque. I think I like warbonnet's suggestion of trying to jam some rocks into a crack as a stop. At least I'd prefer that over the weight of a cam or multiple sized nuts in my pack. (Yes, I'm a gram weenie). If that doesn't work, it's back to the ground.

**warbonnetguy** · 06-22-2009, 23:16

Originally Posted by Hike4WD

Thanks, Roadtorque. I think I like warbonnet's suggestion of trying to jam some rocks into a crack as a stop. At least I'd prefer that over the weight of a cam or multiple sized nuts in my pack. (Yes, I'm a gram weenie). If that doesn't work, it's back to the ground.

good luck, that's definately the hard way.

**Quest23** · 06-23-2009, 08:47

Originally Posted by Hike4WD

Thanks, Roadtorque. I think I like warbonnet's suggestion of trying to jam some rocks into a crack as a stop. At least I'd prefer that over the weight of a cam or multiple sized nuts in my pack. (Yes, I'm a gram weenie). If that doesn't work, it's back to the ground.

A consideration is how you expect to get a small jam nut OUT after you're done. It will have seen a lot of force and dynamics over the course of a night. A rock, on the other hand, can just stay there.

**kykcamper** · 06-23-2009, 09:47

I like the Monkey Fist idea. It's not a super tough knot to learn, and can be handy to know it a variety of situations. It makes it a little easier to hang a bear bag, although there are other options for that as well.

**Cannibal** · 06-23-2009, 09:53

The Coast Guard taught me to hate monkey fists. I made a similar promise when I left the Coast Guard as I did when I left college and swore I'd never eat another Ramen noodle as long as I breathed; probably the only guy on the AT that never carried those things.

I've been on a mission to accomplish this type of hang. I've played with an assortment of climbing gear, thanks to my rock-head friends. I've also taken a stone and wrapped it in webbing (lazy monkey fist) and jammed that in a crack. Long, long, long lengths of webbing have been used too. I initially wanted to go with the gear (see: Cannibal is a gearhead), but the later two methods have proven easier. Problem with jamming it in a crack and hanging overnight is wear on the webbing. I've got some pretty heavy duty webbing I used and it shows some surface abrasion after about 3 nights.

I will be bringing back a picture of me in my hammock on top of 14er. Oh yes, I will be.

**cavediver2** · 06-23-2009, 10:30

I have done this a few times in the past used 1" cams to hang from rocks nothing radical or anything just new that I was going to be in area's that had poor choice of tree's and a better choice of rock faces and broken boulders. Just remember if you are going to hang from rocks or near rocks they are great in the winter as they usually hold heat for long periods of time. But this can be the same in the summer and also make it very warm to lay around. That said I have had shade on one side much earlier and was able to cool off in a spring and slept very peaceful.

Edit: I like black diamonds for this http://www.rei.com/product/718303

**pineapplenewton** · 06-23-2009, 11:33

Ive read that rock climbers when climbing huge cliffs that take more than one day oftan use hammocks but i don't know for sure and I don't know what they use to hold it probubly similar things to what you use when lead climbing.