Well I've finally decided to ditch my way too heavy tent, and jump into hanging with both feet. So far I've gotten a WBBB and Mamajamba tarp. Yeti 3 season underquilt and JRB shenandoah TQ for insulation. I can't believe how warm the yeti is on the backside. I've just been messing around in the back yard for now changing little details in setup to see what kind of difference it makes. I'm looking forward to trying to make it to a group hang to expand my knowledge beyond trial and error and youtube. Thanks be to Shug for sending me this way from his videos.