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    Alright, I placed my order for the ARGON green, short 20* Incubator with 1 oz. overstuff. About how long will I have to wait until it ships? ( my birthday this friday, so it was a good excuse to get it. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRobertson View Post
    Alright, I placed my order for the ARGON green, short 20* Incubator with 1 oz. overstuff. About how long will I have to wait until it ships? ( my birthday this friday, so it was a good excuse to get it. )
    It's been almost three weeks since I ordered my burrow and it has not shipped. Others on here seem to be having similar times. I would expect 3 weeks until it ships and hope for something sooner.
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    Ordered a 20° TQ/UQ from HG on 4/4 and received them on 4/28
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    sweet. looks like the wait will be worth it! So if I got the short version with 1 oz overstuff, should it be warm down to 15* or maybe even 10*?
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    0 can be more of a 3 season quilt..spring, winter, fall if you use venting when needed. For deep summer just us a PLUQ or make something from fleece to go under you. add/subtract sleeping clothing as needed and you will be all set. Heck even a 20F can be hot in the east coast humid summers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRobertson View Post
    sweet. looks like the wait will be worth it! So if I got the short version with 1 oz overstuff, should it be warm down to 15* or maybe even 10*?
    . I've had my 20degree phoenix plus 1 oz overstuff down to 9F and 11F. It was pretty windy both times but I was generally ok. Typical deal where you start too warm at first and gradually cool throughout the night. Probably around 5 am I woke up cool, but adding another clothing layer enabled me to get back asleep. Not the ideal warmth at those temps early in the morning but not too bad. Definitely fine for a short trip.

    On a side note my burrow was delivered today and I will post pics of it once I get home to check it out. Pumped.
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    I used my 20° + 1oz Incubator a few times in the winter. No issued whatsoever. Actually, I knew I was really rolling the dice when I arrived at the trailhead around 10PM and it was 7°F! There was no turning back, so I just went for it and did fine. Probably one of the coziest nights in my hammock. The next trip I took got down to at least 3*°F and maybe even closer to 0°. Not even a cool spot. I am very surprised and obviously thrilled with these results!

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    I ended up with both because we camp (moto and cage) in elevations that can freeze during summer. If you only want one I'd suggest the 20 degree with a 2QZQ breathable under quilt protector. Mine increases the insulation by a noticeable margin. As always YMMV and it all depends on your personal comfort zones.

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    I have the 20* and used it in freezing temps, possibly as much as -5 C (no idea what that is in F), without feeling anywhere near its limit. I've also used it in warmer weather. However, in an effort to reduce bulk, I got a yeti when ordering my XLC, and I've used that one down to a couple of -degrees as well. So my conclusion is the 20 will bring you down into fairly deep winter - if I went out in foreaast -10 i would not worry at all - and venting will allow pretty warm weather too, while being less bulky and weighty than the 0. So, just to say that I Think you made the right choice!

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    So, I cant wait.... still checking for emails all the time!!! and I have a KAQ jarbidge that I use indoors & in the summer. My incubator will be my go-to quilt. (and quite honestly, my backyard hanging quilt too!)
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