Question for WBRR Owners

**brswan** · 05-10-2014, 18:06

Originally Posted by CeeVee

I'm in Florida also and prefer the RR over my Blackbird. 2 comments - my biggest complaint is that I keep forgetting to get the head spreader bar into it's loop while assembling, wish it was red grosgrain tape instead of black. I'll learn (eventually)😕. Second I tried the pad with both my BB & RR then bought a Mt Greylock UQ. Nylon is cold even in Fla. Of course if your mad enough to camp in mid August (like I did once) .... you're on your own☺

Thanks for the advice! Any other tips for Florida hammocking?

**brswan** · 05-10-2014, 18:07

Thanks again to all who've responded. I appreciate the feedback and am still saving. All the advice has cemented my decision for the WBRR.

**sliver** · 05-10-2014, 23:25

1. Have you had trouble finding trees to hang on while camping?
Yes, but only in campgrounds where there is a designated tent "pad". The first time I camped in a campground, I got lucky and the trees were in the right place. I built myself a Turtle Dog stand, which took me all of about 30 minutes, in case I went car camping somewhere without trees. There are hammock stand backpacking devices make with lightweight materials but they are more expensive.

2. Is it hard to set up ?
Easy peasy. Easier than any of my tents.

3. Would you buy it again if?
Absolutely! I set it up for the first time in a park, laid down to try it out for 5 minutes, and woke up an hour later. Oddly, I found I didn't need a pillow.

4. Do you recommend it for a first hammock?
Definitely. It has all of the features I needed. I didn't find it to be unstable at all, which is a common concern.

I also got a SuperFly because I wanted the doors built in, rather than the Cloudburst, which has no doors. The CB has the pullout positioned differently than the SF. I bought 4 clip-on tarp pullouts from Dutch Gear so I can easily set the pullout position like the CB.

I tried 2 different gathered end hammocks and couldn't quite get past the calf pressure problem. I didn't really want a piece of equipment that required me to fiddle around a lot to make it comfortable.

Oddly, I found I didn't need a pillow.

HTH

**Tonopah** · 05-11-2014, 20:34

I tried my Ridgerunner last night with my Exped Downmat pad. Firstly, wanted to see if it would fit as I have the 26" wide version. It fit fine and was snug at the waist of the RR so it is not going to move. This is a 3.5 inch thick mat and I had never tried one that thick before. The size and thickness of the mat fills the RR side to side and end to end and raises the bed up -- but I did not find it to be too tippy at all and the view was great! Plus, the pad has an R value of 8 (see link below) so an underquilt should not be necessary (in addtion to the pad) in just about any conditions.

When I tent camp, I use the pad plus the tent, poles, stakes and sleeping bag. With the RR it is the pad, plus the hammock (no stakes) and a TQ (and sometimes tarp). From a standpoint of packed size and weight, pretty even (I motorcycle camp).

Comfort? RR is awesome. I like it better than my BB.

I will say though, that the RR with the thick pad is a like a cot in the sky. It is quite different from a gathered end hammock. YMMV.