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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    I'd like to toss out a 'Thanks' to everyone that had input into this suspension method. I've been following the various threads that lead to this, and have been tinkering with the different methods discussed. Well done!

    Because the first post of this particular thread was so detailed, I've gone ahead and made it a sticky for the suspension forum.

    *Note - I changed the title, also, because this method isn't Blackbird specific*
    Thanks for the "thread upgrade". I was kind of wishing I had just used the "Whoopie Sling Suspension" title after I posted, but it was too late. But now- I guess it wasn't too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IChristie View Post
    Hi all. I've been quite intrigued by all the recent talk about splicing, in part because I've seen some reference single digit decreases in rope strength. I took a look at Samson Rope's splicing page, specifically the (pdf) instructions for making a whoopie sling using 12-strand AmSteel.

    According to Samson, "Whoopie Slings have a break strength of 60% of the published average ROPE break strength". Any idea why there's such a large discrepancy? Where have people come across the aforementioned single digit estimates?
    If you check the Yale Cordage pdf on making adjustable slings they say "Derate Rope tensile strength 12% when using adjustable splice" which is the number I have used. I suspect, like TeeDee and Hike4WD, that it's the "locked Brummel" that the Samson Whoopie uses for the eye that apparently derates the rope significantly more than the regular eye splice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbonnetguy View Post
    what are you guys making toggles out of?
    1/8" diameter stainless steel tubing. 1" weighs between 0.1 and 0.15 oz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Does anyone see a reason aircore plus from BPL won't work. I think it has 8 strands. It is what I have on hand and the Mrs. has me on a tight budget right now.
    Dutch. We have some BPL Aircore that TeeDee purchased a few years back.

    The Aircore we have is single braid and at first glance looks identical to gray amsteel.

    It will work if it fits the above description.

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    Thanks TF I will try tonight at work.
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    Dutch, The BPL Aircore that I have is identical to eight strand amsteel.

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    Has anyone tried this with Sypderline? I have more Spyderline left than I do Air Core. Not sure I'm sold on the utility of an entire Whoopie Sling but this thread has motivated me to do some eye splices. Who knows...I might try a Whoopie Sling just to see how I like it. Would at least work for an adjustable ridgeline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    Has anyone tried this with Sypderline?
    Spyderline only has a single dyneema strand core, with a thin polyester sheath. I'm not sure how you'd go about doing it.
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    Hrm...maybe I'll salvage some old hammock supports I made from Air Core then. I can always replace a normal hammock support with Spyderline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by headchange4u View Post
    I to have been following the whoopie sling / UCR threads with much interest. I made my "splicing needle" today...
    For what's is worth, I too have been following these threads and have been trying to experiment with creating the splice. I don't have a fid or any knitting tools. Last night, I successfully used a 2' length of steel wire. I bent the leading end over so it was blunt as it was pushed through a piece of 7/64 Amsteel Blue. I simply taped the leading end of the bury (another piece of 7/64 Amsteel) to the tail end of the wire. The leading end of the bury was tapered as described in these threads. The steel wire worked very well.
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