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    Senior Member pgibson's Avatar
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    I'll throw in a couple little points in hopes to help with the questions.

    On the Pad. The best way to keep a foot pad in place is to put it inside you're sleeping bag or top quilt. That way when you move a little the pad says with your legs. Roll over completely and you might need to kick it/push it back in place. Condensation on a foot pad is either so little or next to nonexistent that I have never once noticed it. On a full body pad it becomes more apparent as more of you are in contact with the pad, but a foot pad covers so little area that it would be hard to feel a noticeable amount. I spent close to 5 years ham mocking and testing various pads for a foot pad before offering them in the store. The ones I select is the one that preformed the best, was the lightest weight and greatest warmth retention. If your worried that the thickness won't be enough for you....and everyone is different...then bump up to the thicker size (there is a reason we offer 2 sizes) I have taken the thiner size to 20 by adding my down socks on my feet. But everyone is different, some people naturally have low or slow circulation in their feet/lower legs and should insulate them with a thicker pad. You will need to judge. On the last few trips I have been on I have ended up pushing the pad off to the side in my TQ as I was to warm with it and did not end up using it at all...easy temperature regulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhemkb View Post
    Awesome!

    For those of you who have experience with both the JB and a PLUQ, how does it compare size wise to a compressed PLUQ? Bulkier, smaller or about the same?
    The Jarbridge is 2" longer in each direction than the PLUQ but can compress a tiny bit smaller and weights 10oz less. I have a 20* bag and used the PLUQ down to 50* and was just a bit cold (enough that I woke up, not enough that I couldn't fall asleep. I couldn't get my bag to work as a warm enough top quilt with it.

    With my Jarbridge I spent nights down to 40-45* so far and was toasty warm with the same bag as a top quilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratdog View Post
    I normally tucked in between the layers as I have a double layer hammock. The pad stayed comfortably in the footbox of the XLC.
    So glad to hear I can shove the pad in between the layers of my double layer XTC. Think that just solved my problem.


    And pgibson, thanks. That made me feel better about trusting a little 1/8" thin pad for my precious feet!

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    I am sold on the Jarbidge. Paul graciously answered my noob questions patiently and honestly. Now I just need to scrape the funds together and stop teeter tottering between the 1 and 3 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhemkb View Post
    I am sold on the Jarbidge. Paul graciously answered my noob questions patiently and honestly. Now I just need to scrape the funds together and stop teeter tottering between the 1 and 3 season.
    3.

    Your first quilt should always be a 3 season imo. Then after you use it and come to love it you decide if you want lighter quilts for the summer or heavier quilts for the winter.

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    mayhemkb from Green Bay, Wi - that far north and near the lake - a 3 season would really extend your weather window. I'm sure you will enjoy yours as much as I have enjoyed mine.
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    It seems an overwhelming consensus. 3 season it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhemkb View Post
    It seems an overwhelming consensus. 3 season it is!

    We we have them in stock in 3 colors. Black on Black would take 1-2 working days.
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    Order placed Paul!

    Thank you everyone!

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    Just read through this thread. I'm glad people said they had the blackbird because I think I'm going to upgrade to that next month and was wondering if my jarbridge was going to work out with it.

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