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    Safari clone

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    That's a great looking project, TeeDee. Can't wait to see the completed pics.
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    That's a really nice looking hammock. Great job. Keep us updated.
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    tee dee you are far braver than I...keep up with the great work!!

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    Hi TD!
    the whipping socks will look good on my homemade hammocks. Nice innovation and nice on aesthetics. Would you mind if i copy it?

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    I've been working on a Quasi-Safari clone too. But I'm just doing it with a top entry. And I hemmed the edges. I measured the ties out just above my shoulder to be 49.5 inches from the top of the tube. I measured my friend's HH it was 42 or 43 inches from the top. Would making it that far up the really make it more comfortable?

    Also, I'm using black taslan/supplex. 144in x 59in.

    And I'm still not sure how I want to do the bugnet yet: zipper, velcro or just a bug tube to fit around the whole thing. How would you do tie outs with a bug tube?

    What about this: make the top and bottom bugnets separate, similar to an over/under quilt. Attach the top bugnet via zipper, attach the bottom via velcro a la Speer style. Do you think Velcro and a zipper would be add unnecessary weight? Maybe a double layered hammock would be a better solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funbun View Post
    And I'm still not sure how I want to do the bugnet yet: zipper, velcro or just a bug tube to fit around the whole thing. How would you do tie outs with a bug tube?

    What about this: make the top and bottom bugnets separate, similar to an over/under quilt. Attach the top bugnet via zipper, attach the bottom via velcro a la Speer style. Do you think Velcro and a zipper would be add unnecessary weight? Maybe a double layered hammock would be a better solution.
    I think making the bugnet in two pieces would add more weight than you'd want. You could make a sock/pod that would allow you to use the side tie-outs: just add two reinforcement patches to the inside of the sock so they line up with the hammock tie-outs. Put an attachment loop on both the inside and outside of each reinforcement patch. The inside loop attaches to the hammock and the outside loop gets shock cord to a stake. Simple.
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    That's pretty heavy... I'm pretty sure that my Speer-type with sock, Potomac, and 20* bag for a top quilt is at least somewhat lighter than that, and the bag weighs more than 3 lbs. I've had that setup below 15* plus a LOT of wind, and I could knock at least 1.5 lbs. off by subbing a top quilt for the sleeping bag.

    I think you're overestimating the weight for a full bug bivy. My sock is only 12-14 oz. (don't remember exactly right now) and it's DWR, which is heavier than noseeum. Hammock Engineer has mentioned his bivy weighing in at around 8 oz. There's also the issue of being bitten from the bottom if you go with the top-only bugnet.

    I guess you really like that bottom entry :P Not for me! If you're planning on leaving the bugnet attached instead of making full use of its removability, why not save the weight and just sew it in permanently? You must really like Velcro, too...I HATE it. IMO a good zipper would also be lighter and not require additional pieces to keep stuff out.
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    I'm a big heavy guy: 6'2", 260lbs+ with linebacker shoulders. I worry that 1.9 ounce ripstop would be too weak for me.

    I'll probably make another hammock like this one and use 1.9 ripstop just to see. It seems that Speer and Hennessy use heavier fabric for heavier people. I followed suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funbun View Post
    I'm a big heavy guy: 6'2", 260lbs+ with linebacker shoulders. I worry that 1.9 ounce ripstop would be too weak for me.

    I'll probably make another hammock like this one and use 1.9 ripstop just to see. It seems that Speer and Hennessy use heavier fabric for heavier people. I followed suit.
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