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    Modular sleep system as a TQ

    Has anyone really every tried this...

    These things are awesome. It could be used a TQ and a UQ all at the same time. The outer bag is gortex lined and totally waterproof. Plus the inter bags (there are 2 of them) can be used to go down to -40ish??

    I'm kinda thinking that if they protect out valuable troops in the field then they are well enough for me.

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    They're great for on the ground. I got the bivy a year ago before converting fully to hammocks and did a 4 night canoe trip. I used an inflatable pad and my sleeping bag inside. I wouldn't, however, try using the bivy inside a hammock. The bags are just sleeping bags and can be used in a hammock but the whole system? No thanks. I'm finding that using a sleeping bag is becoming an issue for me with all the moving around and bunching up under me nonsense. Ill be making my own top quilt to remedy that.
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    As McBlaster said, they are great for ground sleeping. Well - not great, but adequate.
    In a hammock the bivy cover doesn't serve much purpose. Maybe adds a little insulation via some trapped air but not much else. The bags are just that - sleeping bags - and a bit heavy at that. The lighter patrol bag alone is good to 30 degrees if survival is good enough for you. Good to about 50 degrees if you want to be comfortable. The heavier bag is rated the same way - you can survive at the rated temp.
    As top covers they will get the job done. I am still using sleeping bags for top quilts. But as bottom side insulation they will probably leave you cold since your weight will compress the insulation to the point of uselessness.
    I have placed a sleeping bag between double layers of a hammock with good success however. If there is enough gap between the layers to make room for insulation without compressing it will work fine.
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    The military ratings are based on using the system wearing your full military gear. I like to sleep without my gun wearing a t shirt and shorts. I find the patrol bag good to about 50F and have used the intermediate bag to 32F The bags are very roomy and I have no problem using them in a Ridgerunner with a underquilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrigummi View Post
    Has anyone really every tried this...

    These things are awesome. It could be used a TQ and a UQ all at the same time. The outer bag is gortex lined and totally waterproof. Plus the inter bags (there are 2 of them) can be used to go down to -40ish??

    I'm kinda thinking that if they protect out valuable troops in the field then they are well enough for me.
    There is no way those bags will get you to -40*! No where even close. If you managed to get them into the negatives I'd be surprised.
    That said, I prefer bags to quilts anyway. People convert bags to quilts all of the time.
    If you truly want a sleep system to get you far into the negatives look up Wiggy's. I have several of his bags, and they are truly impressive bags, moisture doesn't bother these bags. Only downside is they're very bulky and heavy for backpacking...
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    I used them in hammock when starting out. Had a good wrestling match getting in and out and getting all those zippers zipped and bags straightened out. Whew! I love the bags and the system but about froze at 30* with full system with just my undies on. I sleep cold also.

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    I use one of the green bags (patrol?), but I modified it so the hammock runs through the bag. This leaves the insulation useful on all sides. I'm working adapting an SOL Escape Bobby as an outer layer to reflect heat back at me and act as a wind/water barrier. Those with a Reactor bag liner, CAP2 base layer, wool socks and balaclava have kept me comfortable down to low-40 to mid-30s.

    Just need to make the bivvy sack a little roomier and I'll be happier.
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    I have a frankenTQ made out of the thin green summer patrol bag and the thicker black bag. It's my favorite hammock bag but the TQ barely kept me warm at low 40s. The cotton insulation is nothing special at all. The zipper on these seem insanely big and heavy. The snaps too.

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    I have and use the green patrol bag for summer hanging. When I used it with no under insulation on a 60*f night, no wind I was just on the edge of uncomfortable with cold spots on the shoulders and cbs beginning. I used that with a PLUQ and easily got to 50*f and likely could have gone at least another 5 to 10 degrees lower than that. I initially tried to use the black bag of the system but it was way to big and heavy for anything other than car camping. I haven't used the bivy in the system personally.

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