Modular sleep system as a TQ

**GoatHanger** · 08-11-2014, 09:15

I used the patrol bag the other night when it got down to 60, and I was a little chilly. To be fair though, I was only wearing a shirt and shorts with no socks.

If I had either a pad, UQ..... or socks, I'd have probably been comfortable.

Long term, I'll probably convert the bags to UQ or TQ.

**mrmike65** · 08-11-2014, 09:23

I've found using the SOL Escape Bivvy to make quite a difference in temp ratings. The combo of weather resistance, reachability, and heat reflection is really effective. It's a bit confining, which is why I'm working to resize mine.

**FishingJunkie92** · 08-11-2014, 19:43

I have one and it's great for winter camping at super low temps, ground camping and car camping. I used the black bag or green bag depending in temp until I got a rei flash 30 mummy. I personally don't like top quilts. I prefer a bad. Just my preference

**fastrr** · 08-13-2014, 05:41

I used one complete in my hammock. It was bulky and a little tough to get into but was good once I was in.

**mobile_cabin** · 10-14-2014, 11:28

I ordered a green patrol bag with a blown out zipper that will be arriving today. I'm looking forward to cutting the excess off and sewing it up to get a durable knock around summer level TQ out of the deal. That coupled with my new Jarbridge UQ should be a good combo for Texas.

**GoatHanger** · 10-14-2014, 12:28

Originally Posted by GoatHanger

I used the patrol bag the other night when it got down to 60, and I was a little chilly. To be fair though, I was only wearing a shirt and shorts with no socks.

If I had either a pad, UQ..... or socks, I'd have probably been comfortable.

Long term, I'll probably convert the bags to UQ or TQ.

I just read this post of mine and it made me laugh. In the 2 months since posting this, I have converted to down quilts. I will most likely never convert any portion of my MSS to a quilt.

I love my HG quilts too much to ever use anything else.

**SirMarkos** · 10-16-2014, 07:24

I used to use the MSS in my hammocks. That was back when I was still trying to find a way to NOT spend $600 on quilts when I had a "perfectly awesome military grade sleep system!" Total pain in the *** getting all the bags to line up. 86 snaps, 32 zippers and a butt load of wrestling getting in, situated and the zips in the right place.... I still ended up pretty **** cold even a 32º wearing every bit of my clothing.

Let's not even mention the absolute bulky behemoth this thing is! And at ~10lbs... skip it.

**PointPastor** · 10-16-2014, 08:06

I lay on my black bag with my fleece half rolled under me part pillow and part extra warmth for my shoulder/chest area, then i'll tuck my legs in the bag with it zipped to my waist. I then pull the bivy cover over myself and I was good down to 42. Probably not good much below that. Not the easiest to get situated in but the price was right and the bags will last forever.

**mobile_cabin** · 10-16-2014, 09:40

I would just like to reiterate just how heavy those zippers and snaps are. I just finished converting my green patrol bag into a top quilt. The quilt now weighs just over 24 oz with no hardware on it. The zipper weighed just over 8 oz. Not bad for $14. I was thinking of opening it back up and and adding 2.5 yds of Climashield Apex and putting a draw cord and a clip midway up the opening on it. Might be a little heavier than a KAQ Owyhee, but for about $60 I won't complain too much.

**Papal Rage** · 10-16-2014, 11:20

I think the MMSS is good for starting. Not light, but does what it has to do. Now, is it optimal? Heck, no. I tend to be one of those who can only afford incremental upgrades. For now I need a better tarp, and an Underquilt. Maybe even go for the WB Spindrift. The MMSS will be the last thing to go for me. (Especially the black bag). I will probably keep the bivvy and the patrol bag. I have read that some people replace the black bag with the SOL Escape Bivvy. May try that once I get more situated.