'Classic.' A book which people praise and don't read.” ― Mark Twain
Who cares about showers, gourmet food, using flush toilets. Just keep on walking and being away from it all.
There are times that the only way you can do something is to do it alone.
And once it's on, it stays pretty much adjusted even if you stuff the whole shebang into one stuff sack.
But all this rave about "easy to use" is only for the combo. Used on a gathered end hammock, there is going to be more fuss than with my WBUQ. But still not a big deal, still easier than most what with no worries about compression, and once I got it all arranged, once again, it all pretty much stayed together. But, it certainly took me more initial set up( used with my War Bonnet Black Bird) than my WB torso and a leg pad.
I bet the Snugfit also is pretty easy and stays put once adjusted, but I don't have personal experience.
Now don't get confused folks: Despite me being so impressed with that JRB combo(warm head to toe no matter how I thrashed around), I am still quite enamored with my WB CS torso with a leg pad or no pad. In fact, it is maybe my overall fav for early summer through early fall in the south, after I removed 3 layers! I can't remember exactly, but I think it only weighed roughly 9 oz, and there are really no moisture concerns with it or the leg pad. If I even use a leg pad in the summer.
It's only flaw is that, sadly , I don't think it works quite right on my JRB bridge.
But right now, I still am more in need of a portable, lightweight AC. I was just hanging in the woods in the JRB BH a couple of hours ago. It turned out to be quite pleasant listening to the animal and other woods noises. But I sure was grateful for the Frogg Toggs Chill Pad, the evaporative cooling coming off off my wet back in the hammock, the deep shade and the ice cold water I had with me. I needed all of that just to be able to lay there very long. Come on fall and winter, hurry!
For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
I've gone to a new pack, Elemental Horizons, (Super pack I might add) that works well with the large plastic bag in the bottom...After I put in the top quilt, I take one end of the BMBH and MW3 and start stuffing it in the bag, walk to the other tree, finish, compress all, twist bag and rubber band seal... Done, hanging is reversed for complete hammock and insulation under 30 seconds, and perfectly aligned, as you note, every time.
Ounces to Grams.
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Hobiecat, did you get the problem resolved? If so, can you share what you changed on the rigging to fix the problem?
I have a 1.7 double BB, and I'm trying to decided on whether I should get an underquilt and if so whether a Yeti or a snugfit. The Yeti looks really easy to use on the video, but I don't know whether it would be warm enough this winter.
My only experience with underquilts was with an Old Rag Mtn. on a HH Explorer UL, and I didn't like it. I could never get/keep it adjusted right, and I had to get out everytime I wanted to adjust something, which was a PITA. The ORM became my goto winter quilt (top quilt on the inside, I love it for that use) and I switched to a Claytor with ccf pads. I think Neo's posts convinced me to try that and it worked pretty well down to 5deg or so with no problems. Now I have the double layer BB which is plush delux, and I was happy with it and ccf pads until I say the Yeti video. Now I'm wondering about underquilts again...Anybody using a snugfit on a BB?
Genuine Draft uses a SnugFit on her Blackbird and loves it. In fact, on at least one occasion, she brought her SnugFit and forgot her hammock. Car camping, so no problem..but still.
A Yeti will do fine in the winter IMO. I spent the past winter up in the hills camping with my Winter Yeti and had very positive results; temps well below zero. Pack or pads under the feet and sheltered in the loving wrap of my SuperFly with the Winter Yeti below and a JRB RMS on top; winter life perfected...for now.
No problem... and yes, I did get the Yeti dialed in. Looping the foot end over the footbox was a must. I also added a small piece of shockcord with a hook to the left shoulder side. This attaches to the left side hammock pullout and alleviates any "hot dogging" as I like to term it. The UQ slides back and forth fairly easily making one arm, inside the hammock, adjustments an afterthought.
This is my first UQ, so I don't have any level of comparison. But for my money, something that packs down the size of a nalgene bottle, weighs next to nothing, sets up in literally 10-seconds (just string over the hammock ends!!), and got me blazing hot on just the trial hang..... is worth every cent. I love the loft on the Yeti and the added "lip" on the ends to trap heat was very clever.
I used to use a Thermarest in my HH, but in my opinion (I know there's others here who feel differently) a pad takes away from my hammocking experience. I like to lay in all different positions - sideways, fetal, indian style even and there's nothing more enjoyable than that cocoon feeling... esp when it's a large, almost silky - 1.1 ripstop, BB cocoon.