UQP - Strictly for people without 4-season tarps?

[Womble]

When I got my first Dreamhammock, I discussed with Randy about the single layer taffeta vs double-layer nylon. He said strenght is equal but moskitos will have a harder time with DL. So I thought the UQP can take care of that. I can even use some repellent without directly sleeping on it. And it may just give that little extra temperature against CBS in summer when otherwise no UQ is needed. But all are never practised theories.

[dirtwheels]

Iv'e found that an UQP works well to add warmth when used as the sole source of bottom insulation down to about 65* - 60* and adds a little warmth to extend the range of an UQ allowing me to take an SSUQ 40* quilt into the low 30"s and with the addition of a space blanket into the mid 20's. I have only used UQP's made with water proof material which goes cross grain with accepted practices. I converted a walmart 5'x7' tarp for my 1st one early on before I had an UQ and later used a HH undercover modified to hang lower on a HH Explorer UL with good results.

This winter I will be testing other material in DIY and/or one by a cottage vendor. I do not have a proper winter tarp so I would benefit from potential splash protection since my warbonnet edge tarp doesn't extend low enough to eliminate possible splash even though I have doors the tarp would offer no added protection from wind whipping under the tarp. I know I could benefit from a winter tarp but with the minimal deep winter camping I do that'll have to wait.

It seems that for a few ounces the UQP can be a valuable piece of gear, especially for those who haven't got a UQ rated low enough the UQP could help to extend their range. I wouldn't want to bet my life on an UQP but I also don't think the benefit is negligent either. As stated earlier additional protection from rain is a benefit as well as the added peace of mind for protecting their expensive and warmth providing UQ. It appears to me that knowing that ones UQ would stay dry over the duration of an extended trip would also be a selling point especially for those who to not have a down treated to be water resistant or water proof.

[Mouseskowitz]

I made myself a UQP for a couple reasons. I've never had problems with splashing in the past, but with synthetic I really didn't need to worry about it. Now I have a down UQ that does not have treated down, so it's just a little safety factor. I also seem to always have a fold in my hammock that the quilt doesn't completely seal and when the wind is from the right direction it's not pleasant. I'm hoping the UQP will reduce the side effects of that. I also tend to hang my tarp on the higher side, and the wind on my backside can make for a cooler than normal night. I'm also thinking about going from a DL 1.5 hammock to a SL 1.9 and, as someone else mentioned, mosquitoes can be an issue.

[dkurfiss]

I have both a Kelty 12x12 which I put doors on and Grizbeaks I use with my 10x10. I still use a UQP. I am short so end up hanging close to the ground. I don't want my down goodness to sag close enough to pick up moisture from the ground.

[tbird911]

you guys are forgetting . . .just because you have a Winter Tarp, doesn't mean you have to pitch in battened-down storm mode. I have an OMW tarp and I could pitch it to a point where I had complete coverage and all guy points touched the ground etc. etc. etc. I don't typically do that. I like it in front porch mode. I like to see the water, trees the wild life etc. I also use the under quilt protector as a "wind block." IN addition, it does protect the underside of the expensive full length down quilt that I have. Lots of reasons for the small expense of minimal weight!

Dave

[Suede]

I use one mostly in the fringe seasons for additional warmth and wind blockage.. Like others I like porch mode.

Last NEHHA winter hang we had some very unusual weather where it warmed up while there was snow on the ground. You could see a fog of condensation hanging over the ground. My UQP was soaked with condensation rising but my UQ stayed dry. Was very happy I had it that day.

[keg]

Iv'e found that an UQP works well to add warmth when used as the sole source of bottom insulation down to about ....

I've done that a few times as well. Works great in warm weather though a couple times it ended up being a mosquito collector. Loud buzzing all night and dozens of dead o es under other in the morning.

And being the type who favors view over sheltered, porch mode and an uqp works great.

[Bannerstone]

I've been in a couple of heavy blowing rain storms with my HG 4 Season that I was kinda wishing I had an UQP but not since I got my Palace has it been an issue. The finish on my HG UQ's has proven to be surprisingly water resistant. Last winter when we were doing those sub zero gear tests I would have liked to had one for wind protection.

David

[Joe Fowler]

I just ordered one from 2QZQ... and I have a Superfly.

My last trip the wind was so bad it blew under my tarp and grabbed all the heat from my under-quilt. When the gusts died down I was fine. But when they picked up I could feel the air cutting through the down.

I'm adding the 6 oz so that I'm not cold again.

[southern9]

My 2qzq uqp adds warmth and skeeter protection when I don't use the quilt. When I do use the quilt it protects my quilt and adds warmth. Whats not to love? I always bring it with me.