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    Quote Originally Posted by Quoddy View Post
    Maybe I over simplified the whole idea too much, but so far this is what I've been using. I may go to a slightly longer arrow shaft (this one is only 2.25"), but using fairly short tree straps (4') I'll probably never have to use a Marlin Spike Hitch. Anyone see anything wrong with this? I like it because the Whoopie's adjust very easily and it's very simple to use.

    In case anyone's wondering what the black is on the arrow shaft, it's a ring of narrow tape from something I was working on and changed my mind... never took it off.

    As we say in these parts, that's the Shishnizel! Simple, light, provides for whoopie adjustment, eliminates all but one piece of hardware (the toggle), this is it for me.

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    frawg toggle variant II

    aluminum tent stake, ala wally-world, cut to 2.5 inches, drilled, and attached to strap via miniature nylon line through a hole burnt through the strap with a hot nail. Used in a marlin spike hitch suspension.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quoddy View Post
    Maybe I over simplified the whole idea too much, but so far this is what I've been using. I may go to a slightly longer arrow shaft (this one is only 2.25"), but using fairly short tree straps (4') I'll probably never have to use a Marlin Spike Hitch. Anyone see anything wrong with this? I like it because the Whoopie's adjust very easily and it's very simple to use.

    In case anyone's wondering what the black is on the arrow shaft, it's a ring of narrow tape from something I was working on and changed my mind... never took it off.

    I have used trail sticks in the exact way as the arrow shafts in this picture. I don't need to tie a marlin hitch rather just put the sticks in the end of the loops and put the whoopie around it like this picture. Works just fine for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejoha View Post
    Here's a good document that details how to tie the marlin hitch:

    http://www.ropeworks.biz/reader/marlin.pdf
    It has just occurred to me that a knot that I often used, for years, for tightening up tarp lines, which I have been calling a "slippery truckers hitch" because I didn't know what to call it, is essentially a MSH. I can't see much if any difference.
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    Romans 8:18,21-22

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    It has just occurred to me that a knot that I often used, for years, for tightening up tarp lines, which I have been calling a "slippery truckers hitch" because I didn't know what to call it, is essentially a MSH. I can't see much if any difference.
    Looks like you're a step ahead of the game then BB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob58 View Post
    It has just occurred to me that a knot that I often used, for years, for tightening up tarp lines, which I have been calling a "slippery truckers hitch" because I didn't know what to call it, is essentially a MSH. I can't see much if any difference.
    I agree, I use that knot (slippery truckers hitch) frequently to tie down boats on racks. It seems the exact same thing. I like the quick release of it.
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    Nope, I think I am wrong about those knots being the same, and I see where I was confused. Though they tie in a very similar fashion, both involving a bight through a loop. On the MSH, the bight that goes under and through the overhand loop, is formed in the standing line on the tree side. I'm not sure whether this would function as a slippery truckers hitch or not, but I was having some difficulty with it.

    But when I tied it in my normal fashion ( webbing was making everything harder, I am used to rope with these knots), I formed the overhand loop with a "twist", then made the bight on the "working" end- or the end farther from the tree- and slipped that bight back through the 1st loop. Then of course working end around tarp stake or whatever, and back through that bight and tighten up.

    So, very similar to tie but bight formed on opposite sides of the 1st loop. I'm not yet sure if each would function for the other, but when I start practising in the woods I am going to try and tie the MSH exactly per these instructions.
    http://www.ropeworks.biz/reader/marlin.pdf
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
    Romans 8:18,21-22

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