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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr l33t d00d View Post
    Can a different pad be used in the Super Shelter? Like a ThermaRest?
    There is nothing to hold it in place, but it might work just fine.
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    Also, where does one obtain these kidney and torso pads? DIY or what?
    You can order a Speer Pad Extender and the CCF foam from Speer Hammocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr l33t d00d View Post
    Can a different pad be used in the Super Shelter? Like a ThermaRest?

    Also, where does one obtain these kidney and torso pads? DIY or what?
    The pad would have to be flexible enough to let the SS form to the hammock. Since the pad is cheapest part of the system I'm not sure why you would want to replace it with something else.

    The Torso and Kidney pads are available from HH. Or at least were. I don't understand why they don't advertise them when there are reveiws and quotations from Tom H saying they are an important part of the system. Ask for them specifical;ly when/if you order the set up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    I don't understand why they don't advertise them...
    Good point! I forgot all about them!

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    Yea I haven't even seen them mentioned on the Hennessy website. Are they additional pads to add to the UnderPad or is it a modified UnderPad with the kidney and torso pads added?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr l33t d00d View Post
    Yea I haven't even seen them mentioned on the Hennessy website. Are they additional pads to add to the UnderPad or is it a modified UnderPad with the kidney and torso pads added?
    They are additional. You can add the torso size pad, the smaller kidney area pad, or both together to the original full length pad. It doubles or triples the thickness at the area where you need it most, for a pretty small weight/bulk increase. I have found them quite helpful.

    Or you can skip all of that and use clothing you are not wearing to bed, or a Garlington Insulator ( several threads here on that) for a significant warmth boost. Or you can use all of the above with the kidney/torso pads. There are quite a few tricks for boosting warmth in the SS.

    Of course, if you are going to use extra clothes in the under cover or to make a Garlington Insulator, it will require that you have some extra clothing that is not already a part of your top quilt/bag sleep system. If you are depending on every piece of clothing you have being worn while you sleep in order to be warm enough on top, then naturally you can't count on adding it below for extra insulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Javaman View Post
    Let's not forget the KAQ, a valuable addition to any serious SS kit. Adds some bulk but really helps to increase (or is it decrease?) the SS's operating range well into the 20's and below. I have used mine both outside the SS as a traditional underquilt and inside, between the OCF pad and the SS, as additional insulation.

    The KAQ plus overcover really makes for a bomb-proof setup. I am also using 2Q's mod #2, so top entry is super easy given all the pads and space blanket.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mtncmpr View Post
    What does KAQ stand for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    KickAss Quilts...... Under quilts ... synthetic.

    Thanks Shug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn View Post
    Ok .... I've bought the Super Shelter but I haven't had the opportunity to use it as yet.

    Conceptually, I think I understand how this system works.

    It depends on insulation from the OCF pad, a vapor barrier in the form of the Heat sheet picked up separately, and a combination of vapor barrier and wind/storm shield from the Sil undercover.

    So ... the Heat sheet will reduce radiant heat loss and heat loss from insensible perspiration.

    The Foam pad reduces heat loss through Conduction, or contact with the cooler air below the Hammock.

    The Sil reduces heat loss through convection, by reducing air moving across the bottom of the hammock.
    Should my UC (Sil) be hanging free and clear under the pad and hammock creating an air gap? Last night was my first hang and it seemed that the UC was tight to the bottom of the pad, and both were covered/soaked in condensation by morning.Soaked is an overstatement, but the pad is still moist after hanging in the garage since lunchtime.
    Maybe my Heat sheet was not covering me completely, but apart from issues of placement at the feet, it certainly felt like there was coverage.

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