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    Thanks for the idea. I happen to have both sizes of amsteel and the next two nights off, so I think I might attempt this

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    Where do you buy these rings? I looked at onrope1 and the rings aren't rated for life support.

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    smc rap rings, avail from various places online. i think you can get them directly from smc. pmi sells them too.

    cinch buckles are nice because you don't need the backup knot.

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    Thanks...found this:
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...65&postcount=4

    Think I am going the cinch buckle route.
    Thanks for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahgirl View Post
    I'm puzzled. I've long since replaced the manuf. rope on my clark hammock and my amsteel 7/64 has arrived. I've tied a double fishermans knot together and is in the sleeve of the end of the hammock. I have a bight tied in the other end. my question is, how to go about the larksheath. I know how to do it, but since the other end of the rope is in the hammock how do I go about doing this? I attempted to pull the hammock through, but it didnt work. I'm trying to figure this out in my head and it's just a rat race. Do I secure the larksheath to the rings before I put the rope through the end? Now a few short months ago terms like "larksheath" and "amsteel" were not part of my vocabulary, so bare with me.

    I hope this makes sense, because it doesnt to me.
    Does the clark have a channel for the rope to go through? If so, you could tie it like I did my old Skeeter Beater Pro; I used bolines. When the rabbit comes out of the hole have him go through the the channel before going around the tree and back down the hole. Make sure you put your larks head around your rings first (I used a boline for my rings too).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast 71 View Post
    Does the clark have a channel for the rope to go through? If so, you could tie it like I did my old Skeeter Beater Pro; I used bolines. When the rabbit comes out of the hole have him go through the the channel before going around the tree and back down the hole. Make sure you put your larks head around your rings first (I used a boline for my rings too).
    Lol! Thanks Beast I got it figured out. I am however using rings that I bought from a hardware store and don't even know what they are rated to hold. I just recently ordered some of those descending rings from summit hut, so will switch them out when they get here just to be on the safe side

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    ^^^I remember reading a post from someone who made an unplanned descent to Mother Earth when one of those rings had a blowout. Hang low, Sarah.

    I found a bunch of rings at Tractor Supply that actually had a stated WLL...they weren't very high. Interestingly, though, the brass rings were rated significantly higher than the welded steel. Seems like they were in the 300# range.
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    unplanned descent

    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    ^^^I remember reading a post from someone who made an unplanned descent to Mother Earth when one of those rings had a blowout. Hang low, Sarah.

    I found a bunch of rings at Tractor Supply that actually had a stated WLL...they weren't very high. Interestingly, though, the brass rings were rated significantly higher than the welded steel. Seems like they were in the 300# range.
    At a strength of 14 kN I'm surprised. I suppose not all manufacturing is perfect but I'd like to hear the 'real-deal' of how the ring failed.
    "If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you should do is STOP DIGGING "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Running Feather View Post
    At a strength of 14 kN I'm surprised. I suppose not all manufacturing is perfect but I'd like to hear the 'real-deal' of how the ring failed.
    I think that the ring in question was of the welded steel variety. The claimed WLL on those is pretty low.

    I'm going to TS today for parts...I'll check out the rings and make some notes. More later.
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    Welded rings

    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    I think that the ring in question was of the welded steel variety. The claimed WLL on those is pretty low.

    I'm going to TS today for parts...I'll check out the rings and make some notes. More later.
    Unfortunately I purchased a bunch of welded rings and gave some to Hangin' Burrito only to get a phone call that the rings 'exploded' upon test

    Can't be trusted with exception to very light load

    I love my SMC rings. I just ordered 20 more for no particular reason.
    "If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you should do is STOP DIGGING "

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