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    I have been using a walmart self-inflatable inside my ENO singlenest and it finally died on me after only a few months use. They would not take it back and I though it would be a great time to upgrade into something that might last me a longer time, and give me a greater range in temperatures because winter is coming up. So I am definitely going to be investing in a Speer SPE and I needed some advice as to which inflatable pad would go inside

    side note: I have used CCF pads and they make me sweat A LOT. I am a warm sleeper at around 235 lbs so I have a lot of natural insulation

    I have been looking at these two:
    http://www.rei.com/product/778147

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    http://www.rei.com/product/778144

    Both are in my price range... but the first is considerably warmer- at least according to R-value. Bulk/weight is not really a problem for me. Can I assume that 1.75" thick one would be warmer? I had done some reading a while ago and someone said that the inflatables are terrible for inside the hammocks because of the foam that is in them. I just need to know which one used in conjunction with the SPE, would be better.

    EDIT: Or if you have any recommendations of others for me around that price range!
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    Which ever one you choose ... just remember to not use as much air as you'd use on the ground ... let it form around you more and still retain it's bulk as much as possible ... play with it.

    Still need extenders on the shoulders and hip areas that SPE really works

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    Are you set on a self-inflating pad? I used a Big Agnes Insulated AirCore last week in my ENO dn with good comfort. It was only inflated about 1/3 full so didn't take much to inflate. Packs down smaller and somewhat lighter than out Thermarest Pro4 pads we had bought previously. The AirCore was MUCH more comfortable on the ground (confessions of a ground dweller) when inflated to near full than our Thermarests. Not surprising, given that it is more than twice as thick.

    http://www.rei.com/product/763953

    Only slightly more expensive than the products you listed.

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    You didn't really mention your desired temperature range, so it's hard to judge what will work best for you.

    If you aren't set on self inflating, I can strongly recommend the Exped Downmat. I've used them almost exclusively, down to temps as low as ~20-25 degrees, and they have kept me very warm. Also realize that those little mini pads aren't going to do you much good in temps below about 50, unless you have something to put under your legs.

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    I used the Big Agnes Dual core on the ground and it worked great. Need to replace it, mine has a link I can't find. That was after I loaned it to someone and had 2 months of use on it. So I guess the lesson is not to loan my gear out.

    Does anyone know of a light 2.5 or 3 inch self inflating? Or is that a contradiction in terms?
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    Light, thick, or self inflating - pick two.

    Sorry.

    I went with a NeoAir medium, 2.5" thick fully inflated, not self inflating but... 13 oz and packs to the size of a Nalgene.

    I have yet to meet a self inflater that truly self inflates - the thermarest I used to use still needed blowing up. Expeds have pumps, don't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lori View Post
    Light, thick, or self inflating - pick two.

    Sorry.

    I went with a NeoAir medium, 2.5" thick fully inflated, not self inflating but... 13 oz and packs to the size of a Nalgene.

    I have yet to meet a self inflater that truly self inflates - the thermarest I used to use still needed blowing up. Expeds have pumps, don't they?
    No I want it all!!!

    That's what I thought. I think the open cell foam or whatever helps it to inflat is heavy. I only used 1 and I remember having to give it a couple breaths. Better than the 16 breath record for my big agnes pad.
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    my inflateables always sprung leaks too, and i would never notice the leak till the middle of the night.

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    Well I have a ccf sit pad and was going to use that under my feet. I was looking to get down to temps right around 30* and I thought that one of these might get the job done with an SPE 4X4
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    Here's another vote for the Exped Down Mat.

    They are pricey, bulky, and you have to inflate them yourself.

    On the flip side, they come with a pump that works great, in the hammock they only need slight inflation, (as will any mat), and if you have to go to ground, you won't find a more comfortable bed.

    Do a good job of shopping before you buy because prices range considerably and last year's model, although much cheaper on clearance, works great.

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