View Poll Results: Where should we have the Winter Hangout?

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  • Wise Shelter

    11 37.93%
  • Old Orchard Shelter

    13 44.83%
  • Over Mountain Shelter

    5 17.24%
  • Other, Please be specific.

    0 0%
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    Winter Hang Out site selection poll

    So far the site choices are:
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    Wise shelter;
    A great site, the traditional location for our hangout, close to the road, Mostly level & nice trail, 2 reliable water sources, a nice shelter - table & fire pit for socialization, on / near several trails for day hikes, Right on the AT, etc.
    Minimal parking, getting hard to find hanging sites for as large a group we have been having, Access trail crosses a "get your feet wet" stream, rather close to the ranger station.

    Old Orchard shelter;
    A great site, close to a road, trail crosses no streams, Ample parking, AMPLE hanging sites over a large area (It used to be a tree farm / orchard), on the AT & near several other trails for day hikes, reportedly reliable spring, nice privy, Right on the AT, etc.
    Not the traditional site, May be harder to find: parking / road wise, smaller (to my eye) shelter, Only one water source, trail to shelter somewhat steeper.

    Over Mountain shelter;
    Interesting shelter, semi historical (parts of a movie were supposed to be shot here), a lot of hanging sites, reportedly reliable spring, privy, lots of room in / around the shelter for socialization, a decent fire pit, a GREAT view from the shelter down to the valley below, compared to the others this shelter is HUGE, some side trails for day hikes (the first 30’ or so of the shelter trail is, I think, the Over Mountain trail) with some “killer views” a short distance away on the AT, etc.
    A LONG way from roads with parking or a close trailhead with questionable / non existent parking, not sure how reliable the spring is: in 08 after a moderately wet spring & 2 days of straight rain it wasn’t bad, but not “super”, the privy is not enclosed - at all, The hanging sites are (I think) ample but spread out - I remember it being more spread out than at Wise.

    So far there have been no other suggestions for sites.
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    Here's the original discussion thread (before the poll was added)...
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=10483
    don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowhike View Post
    Here's the original discussion thread (before the poll was added)...
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=10483
    Thanks dude, I didn't even think of that. My excuse: old age added to a busy day at work.
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    Counting my 4 or 5 visits, 132 views, but only 8 votes?

    I'm OK with that, I just find it curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctari View Post
    Counting my 4 or 5 visits, 132 views, but only 8 votes?

    I'm OK with that, I just find it curious.
    Sorry... still struggling between Wise & Old Orchard
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    Which one is futher north?
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    On the AT, the Old Orchard is 5.9 miles N of the Wise. The Over Mt is WAY south, 115 AT miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Which one is futher north?
    Old Orchard is more north. Though not much. They are 5.9 miles apart. My vote was for the Old Orchard shelter. I like Wise but I remember more trees and another flat area that might be used for a hangout area apart from the shelter at Old Orchard.

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    My wife was pretty clear that there is no way she's hiking uphill through snow, so Old Orchard rules her out from coming.

    She says snow is cool, and uphill is OK, but not the two together. Personally, I think she's worried about slipping on the way back down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearpaw View Post
    My wife was pretty clear that there is no way she's hiking uphill through snow, so Old Orchard rules her out from coming.

    She says snow is cool, and uphill is OK, but not the two together. Personally, I think she's worried about slipping on the way back down.
    In my memory the access trail never gets really steep, and about half way up it's mostly level. I don't currently have access to my map so no "good" topo, but the ATC's interactive map seems to agree with me, at least it looks no better / worse than wise to the parking lot. "Our" Wise parking lot doesn't show up on this map, but I think I have a good idea where it is.
    http://www.appalachiantrail.org/site...active_Map.htm
    Find Troudale VA, & go a bit west, click on the "shelters" & "Parking" boxes & there you are.

    Something semi interesting: I thought Over Mt was a much longer drive for me as compared to the wise. But, the wise is 358 miles, Old Orchard is 350 & If I am correct on where Over mountain is, it's only 352 miles from me. So they are all within 10 miles drive time for me. This doesn't change my vote, but if distance is a concern for you, plot the routes & compare, you may be surprised as I was. I honestly was expecting Over Mt to be at least 50 miles further.
    Last edited by Doctari; 10-04-2009 at 10:59.
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