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    Paul, are you set up to sell Amsteel? I need some, and would rather give you the bidness, if possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    Paul, are you set up to sell Amsteel? I need some, and would rather give you the bidness, if possible.
    I can get it very readily, A lot that I have coming in is dedicated to making whoopie slings, but I can get it in 1-2 days depending on what you need. Placing another order today for stuff that should get to me on Wednesday. Shoot me a PM and I can hook you up with anything.
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    On the Snake skins, I think the big thing is that TH has patents on may of his designs, not sure if skins are one of those. So even if it is a different name it dose not matter a patent covers the design. short of coming up with a different way of getting the job done, a company can't profit from the design with out licensing the product design from the patent holder.

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    Okey. Will do.
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    The design is patented. Them's the breaks...

    The second issue, at least for the cottage gear maker, is he doesn't have to win a patent infringement suit. All he has to do threaten it. The costs of defending against that kind of a suit is astronomical for a small businessman. It's cheaper to just back down.
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    and even cheaper to not put your foot in the pile at all. sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgibson View Post
    Ok I am loving all the great suggestions. I like the cord stuff sacs, Should be able to make up some of those in the next few days.

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    i'd read the patent if i were you. and possibly get the opinion of a lawyer.

    bayer of maine got around it, i think theirs is a one-piece hammock skin as opposed to tom's 2 piece, which may bypass the claims altogether.

    also, the hh patent is for a "furrowing sheath for a hammock", i believe if yours was for a tarp instead, then that might get you around it as long as you could prove a reasonable % of your customers used it for tarps.

    i can't remember the term, but i believe if somebody patents something, it only pertains to the patented use, and it would only be infringement if the patent holder could prove that most users were using it for that use. for instance, hh has patented an asym hammock that supports a person. i'm pretty sure if i made mineature "asym hammock" that was meant to hold children's toys, then it would not infringe, even if it was indeed an asym piece of fabric with support ropes on the ends. but just because you say it's intended for something else, it doesn't make it ok. if hh could show that the majority of my customers were using my "asym toy sling" as a hammock then he'd have grounds to sue. however if it was only a few really small people using it as a hammock and most were actually using it as intended (to hold toys), then i'd be ok.

    i "think" skins for a tarp "might" get around it if most folks used it as such, because tom specifically claims his skins are for "storing a hammock"

    take my legal advice with a grain of salt

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    Thanks Brandon. I think a lot of folks are using the skins for tarps now, rather than hammocks. I know I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbonnetguy View Post
    bayer of maine got around it, i think theirs is a one-piece hammock skin as opposed to tom's 2 piece, which may bypass the claims altogether.

    I was thinking something along the same lines, something like a long narrow black bishops sack that could be used for a tarp or a hammock. I don't know how big of a pain it would be to actually use, but would be interesting to try.

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