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    Initial Impressions of my new MW4UQ

    The MT. Washington 4 underquilt that I had ordered from the Jacks during their sale last week arrived in the mail yesterday. As always, the ordering process like the shipping was fast. This is my first experience with a down product so I was excited to pull the quilt out of the box and look it over. The box was neatly packed with my quilt loosely stuffed in one of those zipped plastic bags that bedding comes in from stores. Also in the box were a set of underquilt suspension lines and a stuff sack.

    Upon pulling the quilt from it's packaging the first few things that ran through my head, almost simultaneously, were 1. Wow I actually really like the look of the new olive green color. This was a surprise to me because I didnt think I would like it when viewing it on the JRB website 2. I cant believe the high quality of the product considering it came from a small business which is ran, possibly even sewed, by two guys back east somewhere. 3. Man this thing is thin, I wonder if they forgot to stuff it with down. 4. This thing is pretty light weight, I'm sure they forgot to stuff it with down.

    I remembered watching a youtube video that said to shake down quilts after you pull it out of it's packaging/stuff sack to bring the down back to life. So I gave the quilt a shake and laid it over the back of my couch. Again I thought about the nice color and the quality of the product. I also remember thinking about the differential baffles, I guess I thought I would see something strange on the outside of the quilt that I could claim as being differential baffles.

    Well I had just biked home from work so I decided to go shower and clean up prior to hanging the quilt. In the shower I came to the conclusion that the Jacks had shipped me the wrong quilt, there was no way something that thin would keep me warm, and I'm a warm sleeper, down to zero degrees. I concluded that when I got out of the shower I would look at the receipt that was in the box. When I got out of the shower I did just that and found it was the Mt. Washington 4 underquilt I had ordered. Well I guess I will go hang it up on my JRB bridge hammock to check it out, maybe it's not fully lofted yet. I said to myself

    I walked into my second room and took the ENO doublenest off the stand (I hate my ENO compared to my bridge. I try to make myself use the ENO at home so I dont wear out my bridge as fast) and I put of the bridge hammock. The instructions for the UQ suspension were easy to follow and I had hung my quilt in no time. Man this thing looks good hanging off my bridge hammock. Nice green color on a black hammock. Two of my three favorite colors. My set up is going to look awesome when all together. Black tarp, black hammock, green UQ.

    By now the quilt had gotten some of its loft back, but I was still shocked how "airy" the stuffing felt. Keep in mind this is my first experience with down. I'm used to insulation in my sleeping bags that is thick and provides resistance when you push on it. Kind of like laying your head on your pillow, it's fluffy but will compress and get hard. Not this quilt, it feels like it's stuffed with California air (a little thicker than Arizona air).

    I was still thinking there was no way this thing would keep me warm anywhere near freezing. My best guess was 50 degrees or so...then I climbed in the hammock and almost instantly started sweating. I was really surprised to feel so much heat radiating back at me so quickly, I forced myself to stay in the hammock for about 3 minutes but was very hot when I got out. Ok, now I believe this will keep me warm down to freezing. I suppose I'm just not used to the high quality, lightness, and warmth of down. I remember thinking something like "now I see why there are ultra light backpackers out there, you can be warm, and comfortable without carrying tons of weight if you get down products".

    Despite my initial thoughts that this quilt would not keep me warm, I now have no doubt that it will. The 2nd biggest question I was wondering as I was waiting for the quilt in the mail was if it would be worth the $300+ I spent on it. To fully answer this question I will have to try it outdoors on a cold night. However, after my initial look over I would say yes, I think this will turn out to be one of the better purchases I have made when it comes to camping gear.

    The biggest question I was wondering as I was waiting for the quilt in the mail was if it would be worth the 90 days of physical torture I committed myself to in order to get this quilt. You see, I have been wanting this quilt for about a year now. My wife has been wanting me to do this P90X program you see on TV for the last year or so. When the quilt went on sale I tried to explain to my wife why I needed it, for some reason she just didn't believe me. So I had to pull out the desperation card and tell her I would do this program if I could buy the quilt. She agreed! I ordered the quilt and started the workouts. I was glad my quilt showed up on the 4th day of my workout so I could stare at the reason I was doing what I was doing! Anyway I think it will be worth it at the end, although my body might hate me by then!

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    Talking The Jacks' stuff is GREAT!

    I just got my order (Winter Nest in olive, travel pillow & Jeff's Gearbag/Pack Cover) today. I hadn't opened the bag the Quilt was in, I'm glad I read your review so I would know to look for the suspension kit & stuff sack. Terrific! Now I'm ready for anything, including upcoming winter camping in Maine.

    Thanks for posting this.
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    I have my MTW3 down to 35-40* and was roasting. I was using a speer winter tarp btw. I have an old rag for my top quilt and LOVE IT. I thought I loved sleeping bags, these two quilts which were my first are my favorite now. Ease of use and plenty of shoulder room o yea warm.

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    I got MW4UQ envy........ someday, someday.
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    When my MtWash/4 came last week, I layed it out on the bed to fluff of course. What struck me about it is how the down is filled out to the very edge of the quilt, there is no tapered, flat edge like a normal JRB quilt. I should be toasty on the Duncan Ridge trail in DEC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    I got MW4UQ envy........ someday, someday.
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    You can come over to check out mine anytime, Shug! LOL!!

    The MW 4 is a top notch product!
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    Still waiting...

    Sadly, my quilt took 10 days to reach Canada Customs from New Jersey and is now sitting in a warehouse somewhere awaiting the day that they release it.

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    Too warm for me!

    MW4 with Nest as top quilt sleeping in baselayer with insulated balaclava. Toasty warm all night. Frost on the ground in the AM with temps in the low 20*F. I'm a cold sleeper. Warmer conditions. Just down around freezing. Same gear more or less except MW3. Same results. Toasty warm all night. General impression. MW4 is over kill for anyone who is not a real winter camper. That said, better too warm than butt cold.

    If the MW3 + torso pad can get me down into the mid teens might be unloading the MW4. Hopefully within the next couple weeks the opportunity to check out this combo will happen.
    Noel V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koaloha05 View Post
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    If the MW3 + torso pad can get me down into the mid teens might be unloading the MW4. Hopefully within the next couple weeks the opportunity to check out this combo will happen.
    Unless it is a really thin pad, I'm betting it can.
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
    Romans 8:18,21-22

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