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    I got some buckles from Crazy Creek, but I didn't like how the Crazy Creek uses the webbing so I made my own. Check out my system here:
    Jeff,
    What did you do at the other end of the strap to maintain a grip on the tree? Did you just sew a loop for the free end of the strap to pass through?

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    Yes. One wrap around the tree, pass the other end of the strap through the loop so it constricts the tree, then run that end through the buckle.
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    i just got 3 sets of the CC type buckles & was just wondering... jeff & t-back, have you had much chance to use the set-ups you posted pictures of?
    if so, have you considered doing anything differant in the way you made the attachments w/ webbing or cord? or do both of those set-ups seem to be doing well?
    they both look great. ...tim
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    JJ,

    What is the breaking strength of that air corps plus? Thx.

    Pan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_pan View Post
    JJ,

    What is the breaking strength of that air corps plus? Thx.

    Pan
    i was just checking that out on backpackinglight. a little over 1000lbs.
    i have a 50' length of the air core pro URSA dynema bearbaging rope.
    it`s rated at 1400lbs & the whole 50' length weighs 2.6ozs.
    since i usualy use an ursa bag for my food now, i`m thinking about using some of that.
    but i`m wondering if a loop of cord w/ body weight could reduce the breaking strength of the one inch webbing as it causes it to bunch up like in jeff`s pictures? ...tim
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    According to BPL, Air Core Plus has a breaking strength of 1109 lbs and weighs .036 oz/ft.
    http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-...ctra_cord.html

    It's expensive, but very light. I haven't measured the stretch...there's a little bit but nothing like parachute cord.

    FWIW, I stopped using the Air Core 2 as ridgeline - it's strong enough, but it's so thin that it was damaging the supports.
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    I still don't get how it's an improvement over a pair of O rings. The O rings would be lighter and could do away with the bit of webbing between the rope and the main strap.

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    Dunno - would one little piece of cord keep the O-rings in place well enough for the friction? Worth trying. Who has some O-rings laying around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowhike View Post
    i just got 3 sets of the CC type buckles & was just wondering... jeff & t-back, have you had much chance to use the set-ups you posted pictures of?
    if so, have you considered doing anything differant in the way you made the attachments w/ webbing or cord? or do both of those set-ups seem to be doing well?
    they both look great. ...tim
    This has been on my hammock stand since I made it. I've been too busy, then sick with colds, then too busy AND sick, to go hiking lately. But it's working just fine on the stand...really makes switching out and adjusting the hammocks easy.

    I've noticed one hassle so far. If I pull it really tight, then want to undo it before I get in, the buckle is tough to undo. I have to pull hard to get the buckle in the position to loosen. But if I lay in it for a while it kinda settles like a knot, and that's enough to make it easier to undo. Maybe it's the webbing still stretching.

    But that's only an issue when I really cinch it down. Wouldn't even be a consideration without a ridgeline...with a ridgeline, just don't tighten quite so much and it's still fine.

    I don't see any reason it would work differently in the field. Can't wait to test it out, though!
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    I made my buckle setup, just like Jeff's, this past weekend. I went to West Marine yesterday and bought a few feet of 3/16" cord with a 1200# breaking strength and replaced the spectra on my HH. I think I'm really going to like the quicker setup and adjustment with straps and buckles. But, I agree with Jeff that it can be hard to loosen if you haven't laid in the hammock a little while.

    Once I opened up the cover over the knots on the ends of the HH it wasn't nearly as daunting as I thought it would be to change ropes.
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