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    Knotty ... don't fret ... just consider them "enclosed tarps"

    ... make some hot coffee from your hammock inside your "enclosed tarp" .... relax. If it gets warmer and the sun is shining ... or the moon ... raise your "enclosed tarp" on one side and enjoy nature at its finest from the comfort of your hammock!

    Can't do that effectively from the ground in a ... shutter ... TENT!

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    Thoughts, in no particular order...

    Wet and cold ain't cool. There's no glory in misery.

    Nothing says the tarp need be staked low and tight, nor must the "doors" be closed. When the weather permits, I'll go without, or set my diamond fly.

    There was a thread awhile back on changing clothes/preserving modesty. It seemed to be pretty important to many people. Tarp tents, or whatever one chooses to call them, seem like the logical answer to the privacy question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunHiker View Post
    A couple of summers ago, I hung my son's hammock inside of a wall tent that had a pipe frame.
    I hung inside a wedge tent like this
    http://beckelcanvas.com/products_view.php?products_id=1
    during deer season. 'Twas wunnerful.
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    ground dwellers have been sleeping under tarps longer than hammockers have...
    The biggest difference is your butt isn't touching the ground
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    Quote Originally Posted by animalcontrol View Post
    ground dwellers have been sleeping under tarps longer than hammockers have...
    The biggest difference is your butt isn't touching the ground
    That and you don't have to belly crawl out of the thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk-eye View Post
    That and you don't have to belly crawl out of the thing!
    I think that is the distinguishing characteristic. I realize when I camp with tent campers and hear their groans and moans and watch them crawl out in the morning the difference. I step out and stand. I stand when I pack. I stand, lay down, or sit when it rains and watch the storm or the rain or the trees, point is I can choose. I think the whole tarp thing is modular. Tents, generally speaking are not.

    We got a "nightscape" tent from Eureka that allowed the fly to be pulled back from the inside so you could see the night sky. It never worked well, it leaked, and we still had to crawl around and sleep on the ground. That was the most modular option I saw with a tent. Now hammocking on the other hand, well this group is testimony to the flexible nature of hammocking. I doubt there are two that are quite exactly the same.
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    From The OP

    That the beautiful simplicity of a hammock is complicated by insulation systems.
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    I think I know where you are coming from with this... As with me being or should I say Trying to be a more simplistic backpacker, I find it to be tough with a hammock.

    Now having said that let me offer that I might have jsut not chosen to do so yet..

    I think that the same is true though as we go into, now I need a new tarp or a bigger tarp for this or that.. When in all actuallity I just want to be simple and comfortable..

    Thank you for the interesting thread though...

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    Ya know ... the one thing about tent camping ... other than finding that perfect spot for your tent ... that I hated was setting up or taking down in the rain. No way you're not going to get wet and nasty. Tarp over a hammock ... man .. tarp up .. you're under roof and can take your time setting up for the night, cooking or as Shug says ... lolly gagging! All nice and dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pak-Man View Post
    That the beautiful simplicity of a hammock is complicated by insulation systems.
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    I think I know where you are coming from with this... As with me being or should I say Trying to be a more simplistic backpacker, I find it to be tough with a hammock.

    Now having said that let me offer that I might have jsut not chosen to do so yet..

    I think that the same is true though as we go into, now I need a new tarp or a bigger tarp for this or that.. When in all actuallity I just want to be simple and comfortable..

    Thank you for the interesting thread though...

    "dirt"
    I think about that quote often...it's a sentiment I share. I just don't see any way around some of the associated impedimentia, however. We all, or at least most of us came to this point in search of comfort, and things like insulation and shelter are part and parcel of that endgame.

    For those that feel that a certain amount of suffering is essential to art, well, there's always the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    ... For those that feel that a certain amount of suffering is essential to art, well, there's always the ground.
    Well said!

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