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    Quote Originally Posted by IhangnBankhead View Post
    I agree 100% that the footbox does nothing but keeps your stuff from falling out without the bug net. But I made me another Freebird today just for fun. I made the pocket smaller and dont plan on putting any tie outs on it. I also had the footbox twice as big and cut it down becasue it made the wall much taller. I plan on ordering me a real BB soon! 1.1 single layer. Hey Brandon black would be cool. Is that possible? I will order tonight! Thomas
    What are the dimension of the triangle?
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    I have found (occasionally) ripstop, and I've found several types of camo, but the camo has always been some sort of polyester or poly/cotton blend.

    Is this fabric Nylon Ripstop Camo? That would be awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knotty View Post
    What are the dimension of the triangle?
    The dimensions are 26" long by 16" & 16" to make the triangle. Lay in your hammock and mark where your heels are and that will be the bottom of your footbox.
    Last edited by Bankheadboy; 03-15-2010 at 13:22.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSawyer View Post
    I have found (occasionally) ripstop, and I've found several types of camo, but the camo has always been some sort of polyester or poly/cotton blend.

    Is this fabric Nylon Ripstop Camo? That would be awesome!
    This fabric is somekind of polyester or nylon? But not Ripstop their is no small squares in the fabric. It seems to work so far!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IhangnBankhead View Post
    The dimensions are 26" long by 16" & 16" to make the triangle. Lay in your hammock and mark where your heels are and that will be the bottom of your footbox.
    Ok, did it. Thanks.

    I started with a right isosceles triangle, 18" legs. Roll hemmed three sides which reduced the legs to about 13". Was shooting for 16" but miscalculated. Not a problem though, the result works fine.

    Measuring at the hammock edge the sum of the two legs is about 4" less than the hypotenuse, so that's the reduction in the length of the hammock side. It's enough to make me nervous about entering the hammock from that side. There's a lot of tension on the seams if you sit on the hammock edge.

    Looking forward to no longer having my feet hang over the edge.
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    Really late to the party here, but when I'm laying in my BB, the body fabric (under your feet, not the top sewn in over your feet fabric) in the footbox seems more loose to me. Also, the fabric right in the middle (left to right) of the hammock down towards your feet feels tighter than the rest. I was imagining that there must be extra fabric in that quadrant of the hammock.
    I imagine the beginning fabric, prewhipped, in order to create extra room for your feet, would look something like this:



    But I have no idea. This was just my guess before reading this thread. The bed fabric on a WBBB is just rectangularly shaped?

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    one more vote for a freebird

    For me, for whatever reasons, the blackbird shape is the most comfortable lay...better than any non-footbox style. I also bugged Brandon about this idea a while back. He heartlessly told me to just cut the netting off of a BB. I was deeply disturbed by that visual. I would pay $125-150 for a netless footboxed version. 1.7 or 1.1 DL.

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    The lay of a Traveler wouldn't change any with the footbox. That has been explained many times...
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    The lay of a Traveler wouldn't change any with the footbox. That has been explained many times...
    Yeah, I honestly can't tell any difference in the lay between the two. The lack of footbox on the Traveler just makes it tougher to keep your feet in the hammock laying on a diagonal. There is plenty of material there to contain your feet, it just doesn't like to stay up. I've wondered if sewing on some pull outs to the sides of the hammock might help this. Pitching the hammock with a little slack in the ridgeline helps a bit too but the fabric likes to droop down and not stay up.

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    The timing on this thread is really excellent. I just got back from the maiden voyage of my newest DIY gathered end hammock. On the long drive home I was pondering why it wasn't as comfortable as my beloved BB.

    So I was also thinking of a netless "Bird". I see now that that would NOT have any affect on comfort.

    Okay......so what DO I do to get a more comfortable lay in my home-built? Is it the width of the material (IIRC, the BB and the Traveler are wider than most)? Is it how the the ends are gathered/tied? If so, what is the secret sauce?

    And if this is a trade secret, please accept my apologies and don't tell me. I highly respect the time and effort that Brandon went through to develop his products and he deserves to be rewarded for it.
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