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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewker View Post
    go buy some 6" long aluminum gutter nails. They are cheap and weigh next to nothing
    They are cheap and light, but they bend quite easily. I used those for a long time, but got tired of incessantly replacing/straightening them and invested in a good set of durable stakes. Some gear is worth paying a premium for. JMO
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    I really like the "V" shaped small aluminum stakes. They are light and will go through almost anything. I have some aluminum "nail" type stakes and they bend very easily. I have been using the same set of "V" stakes for a while now and there is no visible damage except for some scuffs and scratches. I have hammered them through what felt like solid rock several times. The "V" shape also give them great holding power. I just can't see spending the money for the titanium stakes.

    The ones I use are pretty small, 6-8" I think, and I only paid like $1 each at my outfitters. They only downside it that they tend to collect dirt in the "V" section. I firm whack against a rock will take care of that most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by headchange4u View Post
    I really like the "V" shaped small aluminum stakes. They are light and will go through almost anything. I have some aluminum "nail" type stakes and they bend very easily. I have been using the same set of "V" stakes for a while now and there is no visible damage except for some scuffs and scratches. I have hammered them through what felt like solid rock several times. The "V" shape also give them great holding power. I just can't see spending the money for the titanium stakes.

    The ones I use are pretty small, 6-8" I think, and I only paid like $1 each at my outfitters. They only downside it that they tend to collect dirt in the "V" section. I firm whack against a rock will take care of that most of the time.
    That's pretty much the same idea as my Groundhogs...which, by the way, are only $2 or so at my REI store. Not bad for titanium. And I know they'll last pretty much forever. Interesting you haven't bent your aluminum ones - I've never had a set last me more than 3 or 4 uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbishop351 View Post
    That's pretty much the same idea as my Groundhogs...which, by the way, are only $2 or so at my REI store. Not bad for titanium.
    Groundhogs are aluminum, no?
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    Hmm...I thought they were titanium. Maybe I'm wrong, unless they make them in aluminum too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbishop351 View Post
    Hmm...I thought they were titanium. Maybe I'm wrong, unless they make them in aluminum too...
    Maybe they used to make titanium ones. Currently all the ones listed on MSR's website are aluminum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    Maybe they used to make titanium ones. Currently all the ones listed on MSR's website are aluminum.
    I bought these at REI less than a year ago, so I guess they're aluminum. Interesting. No wonder they were so cheap! Really light and DURABLE though, so no worries!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbishop351 View Post
    I've never had a set last me more than 3 or 4 uses.
    Guess you have now. Seriously, though, the last time I was in Charlotte, I got a few Groundhogs @ REI as well. I used them on the one night of my ill-fated AT section hike and they seemed to work well. I had no problem getting them in the ground @ Groundhog Creek Shelter at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrysparrow View Post
    They are cheap and light, but they bend quite easily. I used those for a long time, but got tired of incessantly replacing/straightening them and invested in a good set of durable stakes. Some gear is worth paying a premium for. JMO

    I have used the aluminum gutter nails for yrs with no problems..maybe you have a heavy foot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewker View Post
    I have used the aluminum gutter nails for yrs with no problems..maybe you have a heavy foot
    Maybe, but now I've got some good stakes that don't bend, so I'm satisfied.
    I think that when the lies are all told and forgot the truth will be there yet. It dont move about from place to place and it dont change from time to time. You cant corrupt it any more than you can salt salt. - Cormac McCarthy

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