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    Possibly, but you also run into the limitations of Climashield at some point also
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    If I was going to change one thing about a flat UQ, it would be to make the ends slightly "convex" or curved out, Figure A below. This would give you a bit more coverage under your feet and head in the event that the quilt does shift to one end or the other. Not a big issue since the Long New River still is longer than my 5'10" body but that little mod could make some difference. Of course, since I've never made an UQ, that little mod could really complicate production

    Something like so



    What happens now is what you see in figure B. By putting a convex radius on the ends of the quilt I believe you would end up with something like Figure C when it's cinched up.
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    jbo c, I ordered The Burrow from Stormcrow and initially when ordreding it I asked him for a rectangular TQ for many of the same reasons that you are stating. I wanted it to be versitle enough for summer and warm enough for winter use. By being able to open it up completly but in the winter have it closed off. What Stormcrow explained to me was that by not having a sewn in foot box, when it is closed off during the winter then you will have to much air flow in the foot box so it wont keep you as warm, but if it is fitted, then the down snuggles up against your feet creating warmth. In the summer I will just take my feet out of the foot box. Also I am figureing that for really warm weather I will just use a fleece liner from a sleeping bag paired with my Winter Ptarmigan and hope that gets me down to the 50's. Remember most of your warmth comes from the under insulation. So I went with the sew in foot box (as per Stormcrow's advice) so when I winter camp I will have ultimate warmth, and in summer and really warm months ill use a fleece blanket or a light claimshield quilt of some sorts. HOpe this helps, I know some of these decisions are hard to make. Makes you want to buy one of everything from every vendor
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    More good points - the limitations of the CS being particularly so.

    Now I'm back to leaning toward plain rectangle. It's a wonder I don't get sea sick.

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    I have been down to 9 degrees with a CCF pad from Wallyworld. Wearing polypro base layer with a fleece pants and top and wool socks and liner. Nice and warm with my 20degree down bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavscout View Post
    If I was going to change one thing about a flat UQ...
    I'm thinking of doing the same thing with a hammock. Couldn't cutting the ends on a full curve, just like you drew, eliminate the cut-across-the-leg syndrome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    I'm thinking of doing the same thing with a hammock. Couldn't cutting the ends on a full curve, just like you drew, eliminate the cut-across-the-leg syndrome?
    My thoughts, too.

    I was thinking sort of a cat cut, to get a more equal distribution of the load.

    The downside is, It will probably wrap you up pretty tight. A bridge, with no spreader bars.

    A diagonal lay might be hard to come by, but then, you might not need one.

    Interesting.
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    i don't think that will do what you're hoping. you'll basically get the same results you get from shortening the sides like ed does in the whip stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    I'm thinking of doing the same thing with a hammock. Couldn't cutting the ends on a full curve, just like you drew, eliminate the cut-across-the-leg syndrome?
    I'm not sure. I have CALS in my SB Pro and had thought about solving it by making the center shallower by essentially making the ends concave instead of convex. This would make me have to line up the long outer edges with the shorter inner edge to gather it and in effect make the edges looser and the center taught-er and shallower. If the above makes no sense, that's why I've not executed my evil plan on my hammock yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbonnetguy View Post
    i don't think that will do what you're hoping. you'll basically get the same results you get from shortening the sides like ed does in the whip stage.
    You are exactly right! That's just what it did. The sides are very tall. There is a significant belly in the foot and head, before you get inside, but it disappears when you load the hammock.

    I cut the material 60"X10.5' and put about a 6" deep full cut on each end.

    Here is is with Thing1 inside... she's about 5'6" tall, and is swallowed up! In the last 2 pics, she is sitting up...

    I do like a long hammock, though!

    P.S. There is no cut across the leg... but I think that is because the hammock is long!

    P.P.S. You could put velcro on the side edges, and make a sock hammock with this thing!
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