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    i just "furl" my tarp with my already attached guylines (the 4 bottom tie outs). maybe i'm missing something though

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    Quote Originally Posted by swoosh View Post
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    i have 2, 8 foot sections of line for my ridgeline. that equals 16'
    if i wanted a full length ridgeline i would have to add 10' to my total, giving me 26'. ....s
    Not really.

    If 2 8' sections currently work, then you would not need to add another 10' for a full ridge line.

    Adding only 2', for a total of 18', would give you the same tree spanning capability with a full ridge line.
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    One note and this a is simply a matter of preference.

    When I set up my tarp, I like to set the ridge line and then attach the tarp to the ridge line.

    I find it easier for me to do them separately.

    When I developed the technique for furling my tarp, I experimented with having the furling strings/Velcro attached to the ridge line or the tarp.

    Having the Velcro attached to the tarp didn't work since the Velcro picked up debris and clogged.

    Having the Velcro attached to the ridge line didn't work since that meant the the ridge line and tarp are always set up and taken down as one unit. That works, but I prefer doing the ridge line without the tarp on it. Snake Skins didn't work for me because of this.

    After my experiments I finally settled on attaching the furling strings to 2 sides of the tarp. I attach to 2 sides of the JRB tarp so that I can use either the 10' or the 11' ridge.

    As I said, this is purely a matter of personal preference. For people that don't mind running the ridge line with the tarp attached, then having the means of furling attached to the ridge line will work very well.

    I mention this because it is a consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swoosh View Post
    i just "furl" my tarp with my already attached guylines (the 4 bottom tie outs). maybe i'm missing something though
    Thats another possibility. Not everyone leaves their guy lines attached. But I guess they could still be used.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeeDee View Post
    One note and this a is simply a matter of preference.

    When I set up my tarp, I like to set the ridge line and then attach the tarp to the ridge line.

    I find it easier for me to do them separately.

    When I developed the technique for furling my tarp, I experimented with having the furling strings/Velcro attached to the ridge line or the tarp.

    Having the Velcro attached to the tarp didn't work since the Velcro picked up debris and clogged.

    Having the Velcro attached to the ridge line didn't work since that meant the the ridge line and tarp are always set up and taken down as one unit. That works, but I prefer doing the ridge line without the tarp on it. Snake Skins didn't work for me because of this.

    After my experiments I finally settled on attaching the furling strings to 2 sides of the tarp. I attach to 2 sides of the JRB tarp so that I can use either the 10' or the 11' ridge.

    As I said, this is purely a matter of personal preference. For people that don't mind running the ridge line with the tarp attached, then having the means of furling attached to the ridge line will work very well.

    I mention this because it is a consideration.
    This is one of those "give and take" situations IMO. Every option has it +'s and -'s.
    I am not a gram weenie. , But Im starting to see the merits!!!

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    Shock cord/toggle.... This particular one weighs 7 grams. I know I can get it lighter by shortening the toggle a little and drilling 2 holes on either side of the center hole. I can also go with smaller SC, this one has 1/8"

    I am not a gram weenie. , But Im starting to see the merits!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    Shock cord/toggle.... This particular one weighs 7 grams. I know I can get it lighter by shortening the toggle a little and drilling 2 holes on either side of the center hole. I can also go with smaller SC, this one has 1/8"

    now that looks good its quick on and off wont wear out very quick and 4-5 of them would be under an ounce still

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    You could make these up around the rl, so they couldn't get lost.

    Another thought: have you looked @ small pvc pipe for a toggle? You could prolly just thread a short piece onto the sc...no drilling.
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    Or a short piece of that silicone tubing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    You could make these up around the rel, so they couldn't get lost.

    Another thought: have you looked @ small PVC pipe for a toggle? You could Polly just thread a short piece onto the sc...no drilling.
    Why use a toggle just use shock cord and use a nail knot to keep the profile small (form the nail knot cut the cord and heat seal the ends). Then as you reef the tarp from one end just slide the shock cord over the tarp (its already around the ridge line so it wont get lost) and work your way down the tarp. Similar to a snake skin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    You could make these up around the rl, so they couldn't get lost.

    Another thought: have you looked @ small pvc pipe for a toggle? You could prolly just thread a short piece onto the sc...no drilling.
    Yes, they could be built around the RL.
    PVC gets brittle when exposed to cold and IF it breaks, creates edges sharp enough to cut.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    Or a short piece of that silicone tubing.
    Yes... Im working on that angle.
    I am not a gram weenie. , But Im starting to see the merits!!!

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