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    Quote Originally Posted by lvleph View Post
    It is not the ridgeline seem that makes a MacCat so taut. If you look at the MacCat micro it is still very taut and has no ridgeline seem. It is the catenary cut on the edges.
    You're right about the cuts and tautness, but I do think the seam helps with the "A" shape of the tarp, especially when it isn't pulled taut. You can get a good straight ridge by only tying up the ridge ends and letting the sides simply drape. But, if you do that with a tarp with no ridge it tends to have the 'ripples' like in Goatman's pictures.

    At least that's my observation when comparing the stock HH tarps to ones with seams. Besides the tarp that came with my HH, all the tarps I own have ridge seams.
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    I put 8" of 1/4" elastic looped 3 times and square knot it at each of the 4 corners. It leaves a triple band about 2" or so long, which stretches a little and takes up the sag when it happens. I may not be explaining it very well, but I don't have any sag issues using this method.

    Maybe when I get back from the trip I'm leaving on today I'll remember to put a pic up, but right now I'm needing a nap before I leave on a 4-hour drive to Damascus.

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    First always tie to the trees.... Tarp Gospel 101.... or go thro extra rigging issues to work around the problem of dynamic sag when the hammock is loaded...better to eliminate the cause of problem than work around it...

    True ridgelines may not be absolutely required but they sure do simplify the easy pitch/good pitch (no wrinke pockets) process.

    Finally, realize that all silnyl streches a couple percent when wet (even a fair dew will bring it on/ it shrinks in the desert also.... but there it often picks a constant due to the constant low humidity).... Therefore, STL or home grown tensioners are a great way to ensure the pitch you retire with is the pitch you awake with....

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    on the question of having a seam down the ridge line, i remember the instructions that came w/ my 1st home made tarp (a ray way).
    they talked about how much the ridge line (folded, sewn, & sealed) increased the strength of the whole ridge line (thinking from guy line to guy line, including the attachment points for the guy lines). and i believe this to be true.
    not only does it seem to help give a neater look, but in a high wind situation, i'd feel much better w/ the extra strength of proper seam in the ridge line than just having the guy lines attached to the edge seam.
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    asym tarp hung with ridgeline and sand bags

    Goatman:

    Since it is pretty windy out there today, I thought I would set up and attempt to upload a couple of pics. In case my words were a bit unintelligible, well a picture is worth a thousand, right?

    Anyway, the only thing you can't really see is the added ridgeline, since it is under the tarp. And the hooks on the tarp from which the sand bags are hung. I still get some small amount of tarp sag with this backyard set up when I get in, as my ropes (by which I attach the cross frame to the trees) are long and seem to have some stretch in them. These trees are slim (one is anyway) and pretty far apart for hanging, about 30 feet. So my other "tree" ( 2x4s) to which I have the tarp and hammock attached are moved towards the middle just a bit when I get in, causing a little sag. I don't get even that much tarp sag when tied to real trees either thicker or closer together.

    But those sand bags made a noticeable difference in how the tarp reacted to the winds once I am in the hammock. It still moves with the breeze, but in a much slower and gentle/quieter fashion, as compared to the normal violent flapping. The pics are pretty low res to save bandwidth, but I think you can get the idea.

    I find this pitch toghtness and wind response to be acceptable. Of course, it can't touch my MacCat deluxe. HOWEVER, in it's favor, it does only require 2 stake out points. And if I'm not expecting heavy storms, I often just attache the tarp to the suspension in normal fashion, and then zip tarp and all ( and SuperShelter undercover in cold weather) up in the #4 snake skins, which makes set up and take down unbelievably fast! But if the weather turns nasty by surprise, I already have my additional guylines attached to the tarp, and I just attach them to the trees for when I need a really tight pitch. Of course, except for the "only 2 stake out points", I can also do all of the above with my MacCat Deluxe. But the Hen tarp seems a little smoother and quicker to roll up in the skins with the hammock.

    But if it's a long trip or I know in advance heavy rain/wind are forcast, I probably use separate skins or sacks for the hammock and tarp, and tie tarp to trees first.
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