ok all, need to by pack now. i need a 3 to 4 day, 19 torso 33 waist-my belly WILL get bigger- must hold food, water, cloths, HH expadition, large winter tarp, BB stove, 4 person bugaboo cook set, extras for kids, and all the other nick nacks. thought i would ask befor i went to the store. will be needing before HOOSIER HANG 2010. WOOOOOOYAAAAA! Thanx , clntstime.