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    So we've covered cold weather how about...

    The heat of the summer? i've only had a chance to use my hammock in cold weather so far. as the sun is taunting me with the thought of summer right now, my question is this: is any under insulation necessary in the summer? can i, like i'm hoping, totally eliminate all pads and underquilts in the warm season and carry only a summer weight bag? should an unexpectedly cold night pop up, will a vbl (tarp, space blanket, poncho, etc) get me through comfortably in a pinch?
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    I've had a few UK summer nights when there's been no need for anything, but usually our temps drop enough at night to warrant something. Most of my camping is canoe based and I'm usually near water and damp areas so I like to have something under me.
    From around May time I'll drop the UQ and switch to a 3/4 thermarest.

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    Watch those night time temps - Spokane is mighty dry as you well know and depending on how close you are to the high desert that night time temp can swing way down on ya without warning

    Then again you may very well have antifreeze for blood like some of the other hangers on here

    Much below 70F and I would want some form of under protection.

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    just a little additive to the original post... i'm intimately familiar with the areas i frequent in summer, the coldest i'd expect on a stormy summer morning would be around 40 (above 0). also i tend wake up with my hot water bottle warmer than when i started...especially after a spoonful of butter in my ho cho
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    I think that you will need something around 65º or so....... it is a long night of back exposure. I needed something and I thought I was a warmy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    I think that you will need something around 65º or so....... it is a long night of back exposure. I needed something and I thought I was a warmy.
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    that's what i needed to know...thanks shug
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    Yeah - I'd be ready with some insulation below 70-75...even warmer if the wind is blowing.

    I'm planning my summer DIY now. I think I'm gonna make a 1.9 oz gathered end hammock with a single layer of torso-sized primaloft sewn directly to the hammock, and a quarter-style bug net sewn down one side.

    Not sure it'll be more comfortable than the Blackbird but it'll probably save some ounces. For cooler trips I'll add a torso-underquilt like the Yeti.
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    I agree with the suggestion / recommendation of having some kind of insulation under you. I'm one of the ones mentioned that stays warm down to really cold temps, but even I need at least a piece of fleece under me, I have one set up to hang as an underquilt for "High summer" use & it can do double duty as extra insulation in the deep cold. Being bulkier than my down No Sniv, I really don't carry it now, but it does get used in the summer in my house.
    For summer hiking trips, the No Sniv goes anyway, & I just hang it with a easily adjustable gap tween me & the quilt. That way if I do get cool I can snug it up, cause a lot of times I have hiked in 70 - 80 degree days, with 40 - 50 degree or colder nights. Add rain & wind, & even someone like me can get cold on a long hike.
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    i just complete my first hammock and have been injecting up a storm since. the hammock is a mid-light weight walmart polyester that feels great against the skin, and i'd been toying with the idea of sewing some sort of insulation in or a sleeve on the outside that matches my lay to stuff with a pad or whatever presents it's self... i tend to go minimalistic in the summer time and "screw it, i want to be warm" in the winter, this would be a strictly summer set up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    I think that you will need something around 65º or so....... it is a long night of back exposure. I needed something and I thought I was a warmy.
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    What about just a space blanket when it gets down to 55-60? Is that enough, or is anything under 70-ish UQ weather?

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