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    Learning stuff

    OR: I knew better but did it anyway.

    Hammocking:
    Item #1: I was not, read NOT going to admit this, but I went to ground accidentally Thursday PM, I had made a poor choice for a marlin spike & the stick disintegrated under the force of the Marlin hitch. I had tied it right and was hanging from the knot & not the stick. The stick was squeezed to sawdust after me sitting there for about 10 minutes. OK, I knew it was soft, used it anyway.
    Item #2 : As mentioned in "Broookville lake" I picked a swampy area to set up in. Had it gotten windy, my stakes could have easily pulled out leaving me unprotected. The ground got VERY soft over night & in the morning I did pull the stakes out with ease. On the plus side, I did pick a mostly sheltered area, thereby blocking what wind there was. BUT, I should have paid more attention to the lay of the land. Yes, I was off the ground, but had my quilt dropped to the ground, as it has at other times, I may have had a very wet top quilt in seconds. And, had I gone to ground as in #1, my down UQ would have been ruined with all 200 lbs of me mashing it deep into the mud from a 2' fall, or at least messed up for that trip.
    Item #3 hammock: The above campsite took FOREVER to set up in, I just could not get / judge the distance between the trees. I should know better! I need a minimum of 14 feet, kept picking trees 10 feet apart. Even with obvious tree selections nearby I was going to "Make it fit!" come hellorhighwater. Oh yea, I got the high water Did finally pick the right trees after about 5 other attempts. Even tried to set up after counting only TEN FEET.

    Hiking items, in no order, but it's stuff that I know I should / should not do, yet still do anyway:
    Hiking a mile out of my way to cross a stream less than 2' deep. Whatsupwiththat?
    Not eating on day 2. Why do I still do that?
    No Pack Off Boots Off Breaks. I had AMPLE opportunities AND time to do just that, at least on the first 2 days. Even came to a picnic bench on day two AT LUNCH TIME & did not stop other than to re-tie my right boot.
    I have a $400.00 digital camera, with nearly unlimited storage & a good battery, yet I took a grand total of 7 pictures. 3 of them of a tree cut down by a beaver & none of the streams I crossed, even though that was a milestone in my hiking history.

    There are others from recent hikes that make me refer to me as dumbass, but these were the triggers for this post. I'm not lamenting or complaining, & the post is to say "we are all still learning & that is OK"
    I think what upsets me most is all of the above are rank beginner mistakes, stuff I KNOW better than to do. When I picked up that stick I could tell (had I taken even a second to think) that I was going to hit the ground by using it. In the morning after getting the wet feet, with the same light as the afternoon before I could see that I was in a slight depression. I know how I feel after not eating on day 2.

    So, from now on I am going to try to put in to play / practice all of the stuff i have learned the hard way (like hitting the ground ) and the easy way like here at HF & maybe some day I too will actually know how to hang & hike!

    We have had posts on beginner mistakes, how about some "I KNEW BETTER BUT DID IT ANYWAY" stories from some "experienced" hikers / hangers.
    I can't be the only one! Or can I?
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    ahh ... it happens ... don't sweat it ... blame it on an out break of Mad Cow Disease!

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    Ever used stilts to hang sheetrock?

    All the old timers laugh because the newbs hardly ever take a bad fall; they are far too careful and scared. They say really bad falls happen to the guys that have been doing it the longest. Those are the people that are 'sure' of their abilities and often overlook the hazards that the newbs pay close attention to when they're working.

    Course, this is coming from a guy that hung over the privy area (unknown to me at the time) at a shelter. I went to reposition a tarp stake and it came out of the ground covered with, well you figure it out. It really was a nice hanging area; shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctari View Post

    Hiking items, in no order, but it's stuff that I know I should / should not do, yet still do anyway:
    Hiking a mile out of my way to cross a stream less than 2' deep. Whatsupwiththat?
    Not eating on day 2. Why do I still do that?
    No Pack Off Boots Off Breaks. I had AMPLE opportunities AND time to do just that, at least on the first 2 days. Even came to a picnic bench on day two AT LUNCH TIME & did not stop other than to re-tie my right boot.
    I have a $400.00 digital camera, with nearly unlimited storage & a good battery, yet I took a grand total of 7 pictures. 3 of them of a tree cut down by a beaver & none of the streams I crossed, even though that was a milestone in my hiking history.

    We have had posts on beginner mistakes, how about some "I KNEW BETTER BUT DID IT ANYWAY" stories from some "experienced" hikers / hangers.
    I can't be the only one! Or can I?
    Oh, I feel (have felt) your pain - all of the above.

    I've only managed to address one of these issues so far. (Life is full of problems and partial solutions.) I replaced my boot laces with permanently tied 1/8" bungee cords, making for easy-off, easy-on. It seems like a little thing, but it's made me much more likely to stop and stick my feet in a stream, air out my socks, and inspect my toes as I dry them. I'm not sure why this particular fix works for me. Other attempts a self-behavior-modification have failed miserably. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk-eye View Post
    ahh ... it happens ... don't sweat it ... blame it on an out break of Mad Cow Disease!
    Mad cow disease huh?!? Yes, that could explain it all, either that or a HUGE Government plot to cover up alien invasions.

    Cannibal: EWWW!!
    OK, now that I have said that: Yea, I figured it was a case of big head, "I know what I'm doing so don't have to think cause it will all come together! I'm just that good!"
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    PAIN is INEVITABLE. MISERY is OPTIONAL.

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    the other day I ended up on the ground in 2 inches of water due to putting my whoopie slings on backwards, they will hold for a bit then you will slide very slowly to the ground!!
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    I have one of those Byer Amazonas hammocks for my patio. I got some huge diameter static rope to hang it from (gotta be strong, right?) and hung it from the balcony at my apartment of the time.

    I climbed into the hammock, and seeing that it was comfy, called my wife over to climb in, too.

    That extra weight made one of the rope knots slip out and we both crashed to the floor (hard balcony floor, not the soft ground).

    My wife is still leery of hammocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayaknut01 View Post
    the other day I ended up on the ground in 2 inches of water due to putting my whoopie slings on backwards, they will hold for a bit then you will slide very slowly to the ground!!
    or in my case (my 290 pound case) you slide rather abruptly and at an alarming rate... just glad i didn't put my uq yet. there would still be feathers all over the dwg that day... glad no one saw me.

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    I remember hiking and coming to this just plain perfect stream. But did I take my boots off and enjoy it....noooo. And I can't for the life of me, figure out why I didn't. I was hiking with friends, we all stopped, they took their boots off. I could see the pure joy of their feet loving that cool water. And I just stood there.

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