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    Newbe to Hanging - Piecing Together a Hammock

    I have been backpacking for a couple years now and have always taken a tent. I have wrapped myself up in a tarp before too, like a bivy, but I didn't like that. In a pinch it will work, but not functional especially on the edge of a rock cliff with 20mph winds and sand....

    In any event, I would like to add a hammock to my lineup. I have had several people now reccomend the Warbonnet's. What say all?

    I know this wouldn't be an ideal set up, but I would like the ability to pitch with trekking poles. I have been in a couple areas where there was nothing to tie a hammock to (much less a bear bag). If I could tie up a ridge line between my trekking poles to support a tarp and bug net that would be sufficient. Comments?

    The Warbonnet optional sides/doors to their tarps look like an ideal accessory. That was another of my concerns with the way I have seen most hammock set ups - rain can get in along the ridgeline in front and back.

    This is also my first post, so hi all!

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    KC, welcome to the forum. Wise choice in the warbonnet line. All excellent products from Brandon.
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    The Warbonnet Blackbird is a great hammock, though trekking poles will NOT be sufficiently strong to hang one. They work well for supporting a tarp in porch mode, however. The "rule of thumb" is a 4" tree for any hammock because the loads are substantial. In my experience, less, and the tree is bending from the weight and really screws up getting a taut tarp pitch.

    There are a few threads about treeless hanging, but for backpacking, the weight of the treeless "solutions" borders on ridiculous.

    Welcome the forums, though. You'll find a LOT of information here. It's worth spending some time poking through posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beep View Post
    The Warbonnet Blackbird is a great hammock, though trekking poles will NOT be sufficiently strong to hang one. They work well for supporting a tarp in porch mode, however.
    I guess I should have been a bit more specific - I didn't mean to "hang" the hammock from the trekking poles, just use them as a support to hang the tarp and hold the netting up on a ridge line while on the ground.

    Also, on a different topic, have any of you had issues with rain and getting wet with a normal hex tarp?

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    Welcome Steve! Heck yeah a WB would be sweet! Wish I had one. What part of Ohio? Dayton area here.
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    Welcome to HF KC!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HamMike View Post
    Welcome Steve! Heck yeah a WB would be sweet! Wish I had one. What part of Ohio? Dayton area here.
    Thanks for the welcomes.

    Mike - I know exactly where Kettering is. I grew up in Centerville - if you know where Mad River and 48 is I wasn't too far south west of there. I went to Sinclair Community College for 2 years, then transfered to OSU. I am in the central part of the state now. I will be back in Centerville for Sat night/Sunday though.

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    treking poles work fine as "tent poles" for ground pitching- good pictures on Black Bishop's black cat tarp page http://www.teamgunnparker.com/blackc...#_Toc173479851 (scroll down a bit)

    Also: remember that you'll need to purchase/adapt/make the different components of a hammocking system, you start with the hammock (BB is a popular choice) and you'll need a tarp (maybe you'd like a rectangle one?) and of course insulation. a closed cell foam pad kind of works, a sleeping bag is great, but many go for an underquilt of some description.

    I reckon Just Jeff's pages on hammock camping (http://www.tothewoods.net/HammockCamping.html) are required reading.. particularly "staying warm" and "staying dry".

    TH
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    It looks like the Hennessy Hammocks are the more economical route. They have a deal right now for free snake skins and hex tarp.

    Any thoughts? Is the Warbonnet Blackbird still a superior hammock?

    The HH Expidition Asymmetrical and Ultralite Backpacker Asymmetrical are the two that look like they would work for me. Comments?

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    I had a ULBA - sold it and got a Blackbird. The dimensions may be similar but the Blackbird is much more comfortable and the side zip is really nice. I got tired of the velcro exit and the suspension. Rather than modding the $%^& out of the hammock it was easier to get something with all the features I wanted. Using a pad is lots easier in a double layer than in the Hennessy. And now that I have the shelf, it would be difficult to live without it.

    Economical sometimes means getting the right thing the first time. I immediately swapped the HH tarp for something else, and went into an ongoing evolution of gear to dial it in. The Blackbird was not around when I first went looking or I might not have been selling and re-buying.

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