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    Senior Member Raul Perez's Avatar
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    biners vs dutch clips.... maybe 0.3oz difference between the two.

    Overall nice set up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raul Perez View Post
    biners vs dutch clips.... maybe 0.3oz difference between the two.

    Overall nice set up!
    ....or...just use neither 'biner nor Dutch Clip. Just thread the running end of the tree strap through your sewn loop.
    "The more I carry the happier I am in camp; the less I carry the happier I am getting there" - Sgt. Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raul Perez View Post
    biners vs dutch clips.... maybe 0.3oz difference between the two.
    You have to consider the factor.
    Trust nobody!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Phoenix View Post
    I've allowed myself $600 to compile a complete hanging system and think I know what I want but still would like to hear any suggestions to what could be improved or changed.


    Hammock: Warbonnet Blackbird Double Layer 1.1 oz ($175)

    Tarp: O.E.S. MacCat (gen3) Tarp Deluxe in SpinnUL ($160)

    Insulation: Crowsnest by Stormcrow ($185) (unsure of color combo still) It's a bit longer and wider than the Yeti which should fit me better, only way I could narrow it down.

    Suspension: Stock WB adjustable webbing ($0) and would like to order some Whoopie Slings to try ($?)

    Already have:
    Snake Skins for tarp
    Marmot Helium Long for top insulation
    Guy lines



    So that puts me at around $520, shipping costs and those whoopies will probably put me at $600.


    How could I improve it? I'm planning on placing the orders next week so I have a few more days to be sure.

    Thanks!
    Sounds like you are diving right in with excellent choices.

    A WBBB is still on my list to try out. So far I have tried the ENO Double, Switchback, Hennessey, Traveler and the BMBH Im still working on. The Traveler is still my favorite although I think when I get the Bridge done, it will become my new favorite since I like a VERY flat lay.

    Ill vouch for Stormcrow... He might not be the fastest, but the wait is well worth it. My incubator "lite" just came today..... not much I can say but.... yep.

    Id also reccommend looking into a bridge hammock. Very comfortable. The obvious answer though, is one of each.

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    Why cant the webbing be threaded through they eye of the webbing and a marlin spike hitch done onto the webbing tail?
    Looks like a great set-up, very similar to the one I just put together and bought.
    I made my own Whoopies just because it was so easy and then I could say that I made them. However, it was easy for me because I bowl with a guy who works at Redden Marine and he hand delivered my Amsteel to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by kritter View Post
    I bowl with a guy who works at Redden Marine and he hand delivered my Amsteel to me
    Cheater!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kritter View Post
    Why cant the webbing be threaded through they eye of the webbing and a marlin spike hitch done onto the webbing tail?
    That's what I usually do.
    "The more I carry the happier I am in camp; the less I carry the happier I am getting there" - Sgt. Rock

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    [QUOTE=kritter;234152]Why cant the webbing be threaded through they eye of the webbing.

    you can, in fact using dutch clips on tree straps really doesn't add much convenience (IMO). a connection point there (biner or DC at the tree) is mainly for a one piece suspension (like cinch-buckle) because it keeps you from having to un-thread/re-thread the buckles everytime you set up, just clip around the tree and then go make the adjustment. since the whoopies and the tree straps are different pieces, it's just as easy to thread one end off the strap through the other and save the weight of a pair of biners or DCs. there's little movement at that point (webbing on webbing) so it should be fine for a long time. it might be a good idea to keep an eye on the inside of the loop to make sure there is no signifigant wear happening, but it should be a good while before they would need to be replaced.

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    For colder weather I'll need additional insulation for my legs and possibly butt, any pad recommendations?

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    Senior Member Raul Perez's Avatar
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    I've gotten away with gossamer gear's thinlight pad 1/4" wide. You can cut it to fit your body type because when you get it, it is tremendous.

    I've laid in just the pad on a day hike in 50* and took a nap. My back, butt and legs were fine.

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