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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianWillan View Post
    If I remember correctly, Opie mentioned that he starts off his continuous loop prussics with 10" of line and uses 1.5" buries. So that should net a 7" diameter loop.

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    I believe that is the size for the guy line prussiks. They will be pretty small for the ridgeline. When doubled, they are only about 3.5" and by the time you do 3 or 4 wraps, there's not much left. IMO the ridgeline prussiks need to be at a little longer, like 12" circumference

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    I make the ridgeline prusiks the same length, 10" starting length. There is still enough there to larks head to an attachment point.
    I am not a gram weenie. , But Im starting to see the merits!!!

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    How the heck many kinds of this stuff ARE there?? Zing It, Lash It, Red Zing It, Fling It, Ding It, **** It! Could someone post a little guide on the different characteristics of all this stuff and where it is purchased from? Also the appropriateness/desireability of each kind for the different uses. Or is it all pretty much a wash and everyone just uses whatever they can get. Thanks for any guidance you can give to a confused old fart!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    I make the ridgeline prusiks the same length, 10" starting length. There is still enough there to larks head to an attachment point.
    Straight from the source of the information. I made tarp ridge line prussics starting with a 10" piece of 1.75mm Lash-It as illustrated in this picture from my gallery.



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    Quote Originally Posted by waddy View Post
    How the heck many kinds of this stuff ARE there?? Zing It, Lash It, Red Zing It, Fling It, Ding It, **** It! Could someone post a little guide on the different characteristics of all this stuff and where it is purchased from? Also the appropriateness/desireability of each kind for the different uses. Or is it all pretty much a wash and everyone just uses whatever they can get. Thanks for any guidance you can give to a confused old fart!!
    Zing It is generally Yellow and comes in 2.2mm or 1.75mm.

    The Red Zing It is a custom color that can be found at www.Sherrilltree.com.

    Lash It is gray/silver and comes in 2.2mm or 1.75mm. Both made from the same fiber, just a different color coating. Both made from Dyneema.

    Fling It is like a burnt orange and is made from pre stretched Spectra. This also comes in 2.2mm and 1.75mm. I did not have good luck splicing the Fling It.

    Dyanglide comes in bright orange or bright green. Some sites have it listed as 1.8mm, some as 2.0mm. It is a pre stretched HMPE with a 1000 pound tensile strength. This has a vinyl coating as opposed to the Samthane coating the Lash It and Zing It have. This is also 12 strand where the other lines are 8.

    You can find these line at just about any aborists supply website. Wesspur.com, Treestuff.com, sherrilltree.com, blueridgearboristsupply.com etc. Reddenmarine has about the best prices on the Lash It and Zing It line. Paul at AHE also sells it by the foot.

    Treestuff.com I think has the best price on smaller quantities of DG... But if you want a 2400' spool, then I think Wesspur is the ticket.
    I am not a gram weenie. , But Im starting to see the merits!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waddy View Post
    How the heck many kinds of this stuff ARE there?? Zing It, Lash It, Red Zing It, Fling It, Ding It, **** It! Could someone post a little guide on the different characteristics of all this stuff and where it is purchased from? Also the appropriateness/desireability of each kind for the different uses. Or is it all pretty much a wash and everyone just uses whatever they can get. Thanks for any guidance you can give to a confused old fart!!
    It can be confusing with all the names.

    There are 2 sizes in question 2.2mm and 1.75mm. The 2.2mm has a strength rating of 600 pounds, the 1.75mm 400 pounds.

    As for the names, Zing-It is yellow, Lash-It is grey (or red depending on where you get it from). Fling-It is orange.

    Zing-It and Lash-It are single braid dyneema fiber and Fling-It is a single braid spectra fiber and is a little stronger at 450# and 650# for the 1.75mm and 2.2mm respectively.

    Clear as mud, yet?

    Their most common uses are for tarp ridge lines (2.2mm), tarp guy lines (1.75mm). I made an adjustable hammock structural ridge line from 2.2 Zing-It configured as a whoopie sling. Uses are limited to your imagination. The great thing about these cords is they are light weight, don't stretch, float and can be spliced readily for no knot configurations.

    Hope that helps.

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    A million thanks Brian and Opie!! I'm still trying to come up to speed on all this great new stuff (at least new to me), and your clear and concise explanations help a lot. Thanks again.

    Let me see, if I'm picking my nose and get a hanger, do I Fling It or Zing It? More research needed!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    Fling It is like a burnt orange and is made from pre stretched Spectra. This also comes in 2.2mm and 1.75mm. I did not have good luck splicing the Fling It.
    That might explain my problem!

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    Just a quick update, I ordered some 1.75mm Zing-It and found it infinitely easier to splice than the 2.2mm Fling-It. I found it really tough to open up the Fling it and get the needle to find the center. With Zing-It, all of those issues went away. I thought that might help guide someone else wanting to learn how to make their own tarp lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    Another thing... Zing It is the loosest weave of the line. The Lash It is braided much tighter and the Red Zing It is braided even tighter.
    I thought that Zing and Lash were pretty much the same stuff other than color. Is the LashIT "pre stretched" ? Do they rub color off like the Amsteel does?

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