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    What is CLO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Dubs View Post
    I used the 2.5oz XP insulation for both of my quilts. I found it to be somewhat uneven in thickness. I also ended up with about 18" of unused insulation, which I added to the foot of one quilt. A little extra warmth there would be a good thing!

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    I was also disappointed with the uniformity of thickness of the 3.7. It is listed a .9 inches but looks to be a range of half an inch to over an inch. It's pretty apparent some areas have more "layers" than others.

    I haven't decided what to do with the leftover pieces, I like your idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameronjreed View Post
    What is CLO?
    The standard amount of insulation required to keep a resting person warm in a windless room at 70 F (21.1C) is equal to one Clo. Clo units can be converted to R-value by multiplying Clo by 0.88 and R-value can be converted to Clo by multiplying R-value by 1.136. (Copied from Wikipedia)

    You can search Backpackinglight.com, thru-hiker.com. I know that Ayce has a really good article on it, but sorry I cannot find it right now.
    Psalm 19:1-3 "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard."

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    Senior Member Preacha Man's Avatar
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    Good News , I ordered my climashield XP today and my wife will help me finish my new cat tarp, insulated hammock, and top quilt after Christmas. I bought her a new serger for Christmas (don't tell her yet ), and I know that she will be in a sewing mood. I have really lucked out at wal-mart lately finding around 20 yards of various colored 1.1 sil. So, hopefully soon I will have some pics and test reports to tell yall how the 5oz climashield is working.
    Psalm 19:1-3 "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacha Man View Post
    The standard amount of insulation required to keep a resting person warm in a windless room at 70 F (21.1C) is equal to one Clo. Clo units can be converted to R-value by multiplying Clo by 0.88 and R-value can be converted to Clo by multiplying R-value by 1.136. (Copied from Wikipedia)

    You can search Backpackinglight.com, thru-hiker.com. I know that Ayce has a really good article on it, but sorry I cannot find it right now.
    CLO doesn't directly convert because it is based on a human testers comfort level relative to a number of layers of clothing. 1 CLO is basicly one layer of clothing.
    R values are actual measured rated of conducted heat transfer (which also is lacking because it doesn't account for convection and radient loses)

    the closed cell foams range from 5-7 R per inch, usually r5. so a 1/4" ccf pad is usually about an R1. 1/4" ccf pad is in no way equal to one layer of clothing. so be careful mixing CLO and R.

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    Senior Member Preacha Man's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kohburn View Post
    CLO doesn't directly convert because it is based on a human testers comfort level relative to a number of layers of clothing. 1 CLO is basicly one layer of clothing.
    R values are actual measured rated of conducted heat transfer (which also is lacking because it doesn't account for convection and radient loses)

    the closed cell foams range from 5-7 R per inch, usually r5. so a 1/4" ccf pad is usually about an R1. 1/4" ccf pad is in no way equal to one layer of clothing. so be careful mixing CLO and R.
    Thanks for the clarification, I copied that from wikipedia. Yours makes much better sense.
    Psalm 19:1-3 "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacha Man View Post
    Good News , I ordered my climashield XP today and my wife will help me finish my new cat tarp, insulated hammock, and top quilt after Christmas. I bought her a new serger for Christmas (don't tell her yet ), and I know that she will be in a sewing mood. I have really lucked out at wal-mart lately finding around 20 yards of various colored 1.1 sil. So, hopefully soon I will have some pics and test reports to tell yall how the 5oz climashield is working.
    New sewing machine huh. Preacha Man....you are a sly dog! I've had the materials for my underquilt for about a month now and my wife has yet to commence sewing. Maybe I shoud have asked Santa for a new wife for Xmas.

    Miguel

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    Okay, So I ditched the idea of making an insulated hammock. Instead, I got my wife to make be a bottom quilt. It is big (I like to stay warm) , It is a little over 6'X4'. It has 1 continuous layer of 5oz climashield XP, and has another layer from the butt to the head.






    I tried it last night with my single layer 5oz climashield XP top quilt. The temp dropped down to 16F, and I was warm. I actually woke myself up at 4am because I was snoring. I was wearing 2 pairs of regular socks, my jeans, undershirt, fleece jacket, and my son's spiderman stocking cap. After I got it fully adjusted everything was great. I was really surprised that the top quilt kept me warm to 16F, as it is only rated to 20F. I had a great night, but went in at 4am (when I woke myself from snoring), to check the temp. I do not know the weight yet, but it feels ok. I like the colors too, OD green.

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    Thanks for the update. Looks toasty. So you had two layers of the 5 oz. on the bottom and one on top?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redtail View Post
    Thanks for the update. Looks toasty. So you had two layers of the 5 oz. on the bottom and one on top?
    I had one layer in my top quilt, and I had 2 layers in the bottom quilt. But the bottom is only 2 layers from my head to my butt, from my butt to my feet is one layer.

    I was really surprised that it did so well at 16F
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