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    Quilt builders answer me this....

    I used to be a sail maker for a rather large company. I was in charge of the roller furling jib division but we were located in the buidling where all of the spinnaker work was done so I know nylon a wee bit.

    An underquilt has no load on it yet you guys are building it with 1.0 ounce nylon for some reason. We used to make light air spinnakers with .25 ounce nylon. Since it is not subjected to extreme wear, is not under load please tell me why you are building with what we used to use for heavy air spinnakers. 1.2 was for heavy air. 2.2 ounce was a storm spinnaker for higher that 35 knots of breeze.
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    I would use it If it was a cost effective and readily available, breathable and cost effective. Tell me where and how much a yard and I will look into it, and I would figure everyone else would to, provided it was cost effective.
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    You can rip 0.8 oz nylon with your fingers, and it's not that hard. Go too much lighter, and the quilt probably wouldn't hold up to being dropped on the ground more than a couple times before it rips and all the down comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Jeff View Post
    You can rip 0.8 oz nylon with your fingers, and it's not that hard. Go too much lighter, and the quilt probably wouldn't hold up to being dropped on the ground more than a couple times before it rips and all the down comes out.
    I disagree. We used to haul enormous .25 ounce spinnakers up on 70 foot race boats. Big enough to cover your house. Screw up the takedown and yet they survived. It isn't tissue paper. This stuff has some guts. For hammockers I think if you just showed enough care not to throw them in pricker bushes you can shave ounces in a heartbeat. For a hammock I understand but for quilts with no load I think that UL enthusiasts would want this option. Hell, they line up for Cuben Tarps that will probably last them 20 trips for $200. Why not?
    Our main suppliers were Bainbridge Sailcloth and Dimension Sailcloth. They have the goods and always had seconds to try for testing. Contact them for some samples.

    Time for me to buy a commecial sewing machine and get back in the game methinks! Those down beanies for $50 come to mind.
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    Only one way to find out! They're always creating new fabrics as well...the one I ripped was 0.8 oz taffeta (not ripstop or sil, so either of those would obviously increase the strength a bit). There are already some cuben underquilts out there...can get a bit lighter than that, but not much if you use the lightest weights.

    So get in the game and make an underquilt w/ .25 oz! I'll test it for you...
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    Ok Jeff! I will find a commercial machine and get back in the game. ****, I need bobbins, battens and long armed staplers now. Sigh. Does it ever end!

    Cheers!

    PS They make .25 ripstop.
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    BTW, I am not trying to be a smart*** here. I just find it odd that we have UQs built from the same fabric as hammocks while one is load bearing and the other isn't. All you need in an UQ is the ability to keep the down from flying away right?
    Last edited by Just Jeff; 04-17-2010 at 22:30. Reason: profanity
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    No offense taken...if you can make a lighter quilt that's durable enough to use, even with extra care, then I'm all for it!
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    So, at .25oz/sqft, you could do a double layer UQ and still cut weight. A double layer on the UQ exterior should give a little more protection against the briars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper View Post
    So, at .25oz/sqft, you could do a double layer UQ and still cut weight. A double layer on the UQ exterior should give a little more protection against the briars.
    Oh crap. You figured out my whole marketing scheme in one email. Dammit!
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